09-09-2004 05:52									#1
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I'm currently torn between putting together a WWII or a Fall-o-Rome scenario.

Comments?

	09-09-2004 11:43									#2
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What about your Battle of Jutland scenario? D

Anyways, I would favour a Fall-of-Rome scen over another WW2 scenario

	09-09-2004 13:56									#3
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Indeed, the WWII one could wait a little longer, since we have so many of those. I for one think we need a Fall of Rome scenario, I ahevn't seen a decent one.

	09-09-2004 15:14									#4
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I think there is a scenario called exactly The Fall of Rome in the Spanish Bestonet

	09-09-2004 15:24									#5
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But wait, this is an 'Exile' WW2 scen - Something different.

I would love to see what technology tree you would use.

I support your WW2 idea.

	09-09-2004 21:19									#6
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quote: Originally posted by jim panse What about your Battle of Jutland scenario? D

He's waiting for some lazy-arse to finish the graphics I lost a shed-load when I had a recent HD problem as well

quote: Anyways, I would favour a Fall-of-Rome scen over another WW2 scenario

Get's my vote absolutely

Did you really suggest a WW2 scenario Phenix?

	09-09-2004 21:31									#7
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I guess we have not had a real Roman epic since Pericles and BeBro's masterworks.

There are plenty of graphics around too.

And if a new scen in that era offers the same empire building as Age of Crusades, then I am sold!

"Ave, Exile!"

	09-09-2004 22:20									#8
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Well, what Gareth says is correct. As soon as I get the ship graphics from him, the Jutland scenario will get done quick. In the meantime, I work on other things.

And yes, I DID say WWII scenario. While it's true that there are a number of them out there, there are none that satisfy me. I will build one to suit myself, and it will be good because of that. I might, however, "borrow" extensively some of the wonder and improvement ideas from prior scenarios. The tech tree and rate will have to be very closely engineered to achieve the desired results. I've been looking closely at WWII threads here and scenarios that are on my HD to see what others have done. Oddly, I don't seem to have any of Curt's WWII scenarios. Curt, where can I get them?

I'm still torn, though.

	09-09-2004 23:51									#9
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I really only have one WW2 effort worthy of rememberance.

That's the Dictator scen, which features great units by fairline and Jim Panse to name a few.

I am playing it right now to test the latest additions.

Exile, feel free to grab a copy of Dictator here...

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	10-09-2004 18:24									#10
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I'd say Fall-o-Rome, but I remember there's already one on work: "Running Free" by Stefan Haertel. (look at thread "Coming soon" )
Well, that scenario will be centered on Huns (protagonists, suggested unique playable IIRC) - so it's possible make another one by Roman point-of-view (a pair of old projects of mine ); however Stefan stopped in summer... We could make pression on Stefan and suggest something else here (maybe NOT ww2 - I like it, but we risk to inflationate... )
However, Battle of Jutland seems great, however IMHO (as long time ago) - "Operation Mercury" (battle of CRETA 1941) could be intriguing too, isn't it?
Bye !

	10-09-2004 19:29									#11
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Apart from Red Front, which is commie only;
There has seldom been a really awesome Barbarossa scenario - From the Axis sides...That would be excellent.

Eurasian map, and playable by Germans, Finns, Rumanians or others?

	10-09-2004 23:52									#12
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Yes, Curt, I'd thought about something along those lines. Just estimating, the civs right now would be; Allied (USA, France, & GB), German, Russian, Italian, Hungary/Rumania/Bulgaria, and Yugoslavia/Albania/Greece. This selection gives some reason for diplomacy. There will be no Vichy regime. It will start in 1939 with the Germans and Russians poised to invade Poland. It will be made to play only as the Germans. I will attempt to make the conquest of Russia as close to impossible as possible. I will have to determine if a Spanish/Swedish/Turkish/Swiss will remain neutral if I give it Eiffel tower and no movable units. Poles will be allied units. All other neutrals will be barbarians and therefore likely to be invaded, including Norway, Dennmark, Holland, and Belgium. I am wondering if I could somehow create "neutral territory" like Eivind/Kobra did in his Norwegian Campaign scenario. This might use up a unit slot, but would free an entire civ, so it's worth looking into.

	11-09-2004 02:32									#13
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quote: He's waiting for some lazy-arse to finish the graphics Well, what Gareth says is correct. As soon as I get the ship graphics from him, the Jutland scenario will get done quick.

Phew! And I thought the lack of a certain S&T article was gumming up the works.

Use TalkerMask with Negotiation. In other words, I have no useful MGE tips to give.

	11-09-2004 04:17									#14
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Id prefer roman scenario. With roman pov... or perhaps eastern roman pov.

	11-09-2004 06:06									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Exile Yes, Curt, I'd thought about something along those lines. Just estimating, the civs right now would be; Allied (USA, France, & GB), German, Russian, Italian, Hungary/Rumania/Bulgaria, and Yugoslavia/Albania/Greece. This selection gives some reason for diplomacy. There will be no Vichy regime. It will start in 1939 with the Germans and Russians poised to invade Poland. It will be made to play only as the Germans. I will attempt to make the conquest of Russia as close to impossible as possible. I will have to determine if a Spanish/Swedish/Turkish/Swiss will remain neutral if I give it Eiffel tower and no movable units. Poles will be allied units. All other neutrals will be barbarians and therefore likely to be invaded, including Norway, Dennmark, Holland, and Belgium. I am wondering if I could somehow create "neutral territory" like Eivind/Kobra did in his Norwegian Campaign scenario. This might use up a unit slot, but would free an entire civ, so it's worth looking into.

Sounds promising!

It might be worth putting the Germans or Soviets under a differnet civ than normal.

This would help stop the usual Barbarossa problem where Russia gets the 1st hit in...


I reckon given your attention to detail, this scen would be a
real classic to join your already superb resume of civ work...

The choice is yours -

	21-09-2004 04:45									#16
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Exile,
I would like to see both of them. OK I am being greedy.
I like everything you have done so far. I say push yourself to the limit for the better of the Civ community and all mankind. Give us both.

	21-09-2004 05:17									#17
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	21-09-2004 07:38									#19
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First . . . . .

Then;

It looks like it may have to be the Fall-o-Rome scenario. At least until someone figures out how to disable the turn-18-global-warming problem associated with the technique that Kobra used in his Norway scenario to limit access to neutral territories.

(see his scenario thread)

	21-09-2004 23:00									#20
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There is a man I know who can stop global warming.
Mr rmsharpe is his name.

He was last seen in the socialist realism cities thread.
This man has the answer you seek.

	22-09-2004 03:07									#21
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rmsharpe, I'm coming for you!

EDIT: Check the Norwegian campaign thread. AGRICOLA has figured away to avoid global warming by hex edit

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=114572

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	23-09-2004 12:41									#22
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yeah want both!

But an exile ww2 project for SP would be very very interesting I think. As your projects are always very different from others- I expect something brandnew!

	23-09-2004 15:01									#23
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I vote fall of Rome.

	23-09-2004 18:16									#24
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I agree. Fall of Rome.
But with a better map, please

	23-09-2004 19:03									#25
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WW2 scenarios are out there a dime a dozen, most of them look and even play the same. Theatre specific scens are the exception, ofcourse. It would be a monumental task to create something really original in this largely exhausted genre.
Besides, Curt's "Dictators" already top the line- a little competition never hurt anyone
A European theatre scen on that latest extra large map of Europe would be nice...
Other than that, I vote for Fall of Rome, partly because you know who's scen on the subject is long overdue, å, ÐåñéêëÞ;

	23-09-2004 19:08									#26
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I concur.