11-09-2004 01:36									#1
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Some info about the next Elder Scrolls :

quote: We are pleased to announce that The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is currently in development for PC and future generation consoles. In development since 2002, Oblivion is another leap forward in role-playing with its combination of freeform gameplay and cutting-edge graphics. The world-exclusive details on Oblivion are featured in the October issue of Game Informer. Check out their mammoth 12-page cover story to get all the details and screenshots. (And yes, that's in-game art on the cover.)

	11-09-2004 01:46									#2
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For the lazy ones: according to Bethesda, what's on the cover is in-game art. And yes, it seems there will be horses...

	11-09-2004 03:37									#3
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I hope they design some better NPC's that actually drag you into the game, with names I am able to remember. I got bored with morrowind simply because there was nothing special to do. The environment was nice though

	11-09-2004 03:54									#4
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I hope I have a computer that can handle it.

	11-09-2004 08:37									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus I hope they design some better NPC's that actually drag you into the game, with names I am able to remember.

Yes, better, more memorable NPC's, with better dialogues.

	11-09-2004 08:50									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Verto I hope I have a computer that can handle it.

I'm not sure what they mean by in-game art. Do they mean to say that the graphics will look like what we see on the cover of that mag? If so, you'll need a very powerful computer indeed. Nothing new here: Morrowind's specs where pretty high at the time.

	12-09-2004 04:20									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus I hope they design some better NPC's that actually drag you into the game, with names I am able to remember. I got bored with morrowind simply because there was nothing special to do. The environment was nice though

yeah dialogue leaves something to be desired.

I play an unsociable type that pretty much tells people to **** off unless they have any use to me.

I have more fun exploring. My favourite part of the game.

	12-09-2004 05:37									#8
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Some people who say they read the magizine article posted information at gamefaqs.com. No way to know if its true or not but it sounds good if it is

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/ge...&topic=16244676

	12-09-2004 08:23									#9
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Warning: Spoilers in above link

	12-09-2004 11:25									#10
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There's already a warning in the guy's post. Anyway, I read it. I only have this to say: the story line is unbelievably dumb. It's probably the dumbest thing I ever read. Makes me wonder about the authenticity of the information.

	12-09-2004 12:30									#11
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Horses .

That will be great fun.

	12-09-2004 13:24									#12
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quote: “The combat will be every bit exiting as a FPS"

and

quote: The combat is a much bigger focus than in the earlier games

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How can combat be a bigger focus than in Morrowind?
In Morrowind, you say yes or no to NPCs, fight, prepare for fights, heal from fights, and move around between fights. Now this will put more emphasis on combat???
And the game will probably run only on hardware you'll be able to purchase in 2006?

	12-09-2004 20:16									#13
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Interesting points:

quote: Current release date is Winter 2005

quote: It’s a fact that, statistically, gamers prefer shorter games, and often do not finish more involved titles

quote: Lock picking, mixing potions, and forging armor for example are going to be done through a mini game of sorts

(thinking mario party here)

quote: you still make your own of course

quote: Characters will converse in free flowing non scripted discussions that are possible due to this new CS

	12-09-2004 20:30									#14
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I just worry that it will look as fantastic as Morrowind did for its time but that they will have cut a large part of the open-endedness that I love.

	12-09-2004 23:43									#15
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The lock-picking could work like in Splinter Cell.

	13-09-2004 02:11									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Horses . That will be great fun.

Think about the possibilities it would add: attacking monsters like jousting, buying armor for your horse

This had better not be a screwup.

	13-09-2004 02:50									#17
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quote: The lock-picking could work like in Splinter Cell.

And in Theif, and in.......

I hope the beta is 'released' when it starts.

	13-09-2004 07:39									#18
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why are so many people going berserk over the game is shorter comment? this isn't directed at you though matth but people over the official board(which seems to have an average iq of 80). morrowind was insanely long but that wasn't the main problem. the main problem was the gameplay was broken and not fun in the long run. i doubt the majority of the players saw more than a 1/3 of morrowind because they got bored. the best thing oblivion could do is nail gameplay and release a great cs. then you'd get so many mods it'd be nuts.

as for the gamefaqs post it sounds believable but also suspect. it really sounds too good to me. regarding the combat comment what i think they mean by that is combat has been improved so it's not so braindead and stat influenced. personally i wouldn't mind a hybrid style of like morrowind and zelda or something action oriented(maybe with an option for old combat too).

cyrodiil(sp?) and oblivion would be enough for a good game. if they just used the island in cyrodiil(the imperial city?) that'd still be fine. that city could be amazing if done right(hopefully theiving will be improved). then oblivion you can basically do anything with.

	13-09-2004 08:01									#19
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I suppose I'm not a typical player. I realize that not many people enjoy spending so much time to explore an entire game (I've only gotten through 80% or so, not counting expansions). It would be better to condense it and spend the time improving the underlying mechanics. There's always time for expansions.

Maybe if/when Tamariel Rebuilt switches to Oblivion we'll see something a hundred times the size of Morrowind- where it would be nearly impossible to do the same thing in two different games.

And I'm glad you notices the level of intelligence on the forums over there. I had hoped there would be a welcoming cIV style list that I could contribute to but there's just fanboys with broken period keys.

	13-09-2004 08:22									#20
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quote: Originally posted by pg the main problem was the gameplay was broken and not fun in the long run. i doubt the majority of the players saw more than a 1/3 of morrowind because they got bored. the best thing oblivion could do is nail gameplay and release a great cs. then you'd get so many mods it'd be nuts.

	13-09-2004 08:32									#21
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oh, apparently scans are on the net and that article is probably legit judging from kathode's comment(beth dev iirc) and the fact people have seen it now. if you go here and post your email address you should be able to get the scans(it's in a few of those topics). i'll see if i can see them...

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/ge...hp?board=924363

	13-09-2004 10:33									#22
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omfg! those scans are amazing! the graphics really are next generation. that's the only way i can describe them. so all that info in that thread is real indeed. i'm most impressed by the forest. it has trees, grass, rocks, and foilage so dense you can only see 20-50 feet. i also like how everything is brightier and not so quake-ish with dark browns. it really looks like you are outside during a sunny summer day. you can almost feel the breeze...

the enemy models look equivalant to the next generation unreal technology that was posted here a bit ago if not better. the draw distance looks about as far as is possible when set to max using mwfps optimizer. i'm not hyped up because i've built up an immunity but it looks at least like they have gotten the graphics to a point of greatness. remains to be seen if they look the same when they are released and if the gameplay is improved. the scans only are of screenshots, not the text, so i didn't get much info on gameplay.

	13-09-2004 11:05									#23
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Can you post the link or pm it to me? I'd rather not post my email address on that forum.

	13-09-2004 13:55									#24
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i used a free email address... pm sent.

	13-09-2004 18:17									#25
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http://deftonage.onestop.net/Screens/TES4/index.html

	13-09-2004 18:25									#26
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That cover art is horrible.


The scans are impressive.



It looks like it might be moving more towards a traditional fantasy setting.

	13-09-2004 20:29									#27
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I really hope they can get the atmosphere better this time around. In Morrowind, in theory you really show have been scared at some points. Or at least meet people who seemed scared.

	13-09-2004 21:12									#28
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http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/...?showtopic=5305 - less is more

a post i made over at the official boards hoping to influence the devs. have a look if you are interested.

	13-09-2004 22:04									#29
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It seems the screenshots were made with the Xbox 2. If you don't believe me, look a the first screenshot, with the forest.

	13-09-2004 22:25									#30
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quote: Originally posted by pg http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/...?showtopic=5305 - less is more a post i made over at the official boards hoping to influence the devs. have a look if you are interested.

Good points. Here's my pet peeve: having to practice to improve a skill. Yes, its realist, but most of the time its definitely not fun. Do you really enjoy practicing sneak or acrobatics? Like the song says: jump around! jump around! jump! jump!