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It quickly became apparent that the Chinese were in fact planning an invasion. They first broke an agreement banning fortified units within the radius of a different civilization's city. After the Chinese refused to remove their unit and destroy the fortress, the Indians responded in kind, and thus it went. As it stands, the border between China and India is heavily fortified and become more so every year.
India remains in theory allied with China, but China has indicated its plan to break the alliance treacherously: by initiating an act of sabotage against one of my cities. It is likely that the Chinese, having fallen far behind in technology, will steal Robotics or Flight or some other technology. The Indians call upon the other world powers to stand up against this imminent aggression. Since the Chinese have long been planning this, the Indians are, despite their advantages in technology, population, and Wonders, not at all prepared for an extended war.
If the Indians are able to hold out for about ten turns, they will build the Apollo Program for the benefit of all mankind: allowing every civilization to build spaceship parts once they receive the requisite technologies. In addition, the Indians would like to give their gracious, TRUE allies important technologies in exchange for financial support against the inevitable Chinese invasion. With a modest amount of funding the insolent, dangerous Chinese could be humbled once and for all!
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Frank Johnson
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Jan 1970
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India would have you believe that I have long been planning this invasion, if this was true, CE would have already been destroyed, the fact is I did not make this choice until India desided to have a spazim after I built a legitimate counter fortress to India growing presence along the boarder.
The fact of the matter is that it is best for the other powers of the world for no dominate winner to come out of the battle. The Indians already ahead in power, wonders, and technology, and any support you would give to them will only seal your fate as wussy allies to the dominate player. Don't take this personally someone has to takedown #1 and its going to be me, I will prolong this game, I will not simply be walked on.
You've played for many hours, and have struggled through all sorts of hardships as lesser powers, its your choice, hold back and have a shot at winning, or support #1 India and watch him launch, leaving you wussy allies sucker punched on the ground watching his ships glide away, then you'll wish you had China around to help you stop him.. You owe it to yourself to try and win yourself, don't make someone else win.
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Curumbor Elendil
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Nov 1999
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The fact is, the Indians are far from clearly dominant. If you will look back to a Chinese post from forty years ago, they even refer to themselves as having attained "dominance"! How could the Indians have overturned the Chinese in a few short years?
Civilizations can achieve lasting accomplishments in ways other than through landing a spaceship: having most cities, biggest army, largest city, top city in the Top Five, most trade routes, longest period of peace... These are all things that leaders may be proud of their civilizations for when the time comes that one civilization lands a ship on Alpha Centauri (for we are convinced that such a feat is indeed possible).
When the landing comes, it may be that the Japanese, Vikings, and Egyptians will enjoy having surpassed the Chinese in power. That in itself would be no mean accomplishment: a remarkable "comeback," as it were. And do not think the Japanese have not harbored a thirst for revenge on the Chinese lo these many years. Would it not be sweet vengeance for them to take back those regions of Asia they lost so long ago and restore their rightful prominence on the continent to match their growing North American empire?
And what of the Vikings? They are the true rulers of Europe; their history and folklore demand it. The orphaned possessions of the Chinese in Europe do not belong with the Chinese; the Vikings should rightfully possess them and so finally come into their own as the rulers of a defined, magnificent swath of territory.
The Chinese will probably respond that the Egyptians will want to take revenge on the Indians. But the Egyptians have been through so many dynastic changes and governments; the current "Easthaven Democracy" is young and has no memory of those earlier events. Furthermore, the Indians acted honorably in their war with the Egyptians, even returning the city of Tripoli without reservation upon the accession of the mighty Easthaven I. Finally, the Egyptians have an incentive to oppose the Chinese: the race to possess the largest civilization in terms of land area.
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Frank Johnson
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Jan 1970
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Anything the Chinese are guilty of in the past India can make no amends with their record over these years. They point to a puny city in an insignifigant area compared to the Egyptian heartland with lies firmly in Indian hands teaming with the hard work of generations of Egyptians.
You beg for Japan...India...
India, who not only sold you out as an ally, but protected the Chinese army from bribery and attack in the Chinese invasion which brought so much destruction. Victory was at your grasp, but only Indian intervention saved the remainder of the Chinese army which brought control over Northern Asia. Japan already has exactly what it wants, its two anicent enemies at each others throats locked in a deathbrawl, all they need is a few freights full of popcorn and lazyboys.
And the Vikings.....you act as if I have done something to harm them, another Indian falsehood. In fact it was Chinese technology which brought the railroad the forebearer of industry to the Vikings. The Chinese have nothing but respect for the Vikings, they are not the type to join in on gangbangs.
What is the matter India? You build a fort, I build a fort, in my own city radius, protecting MY MOTHERLAND, and India declares war. I broke no agreement, I built in my own city radius, and I am met with war.....
India if you believed that you could claim the Chinese homeland as your own you are dearly mistaken, and no one else has any place in this boarder war than me and you. Seekers of revenge? Seekers of opertunity? This is what India says, but it is truely India seeking out your defeat. He now bids you comeforth to defend his arrogance, to protect his victory, to ensure his place amongst the stars, and you come running like lapdogs to your master? I have more hope for the rest of the world than you, India, you cannot make them your servants, and slaves to be called at your bidding to fight a war of your own design, over a treaty you never had or misunderstood...they are not your slaves.
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Frank Johnson
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Faced by superior enemies, secret alliances, and endless falsities spread by Chinese enemies, China has been left with no choice but to militarize. Now, from the coast of Indo China to the Gobi desert, a wall of Chinese and Indian forces stand toe-to-toe prepared for what seems to be an ineviatable bloodbath. The threat of a secret enemy plot to gang bang the Chinese prompted them to move their capital from the eastern coast of China to the highly fortified steppes and hills of the Russian Far East.
The Chinese people understand their plight. They know they are out numbered and behind in military technology. Their only hope is that their superior military training and heart can prevent enemy nations from lanuching any Orbital Nuclear Missile Platforms. The Chinese army, navy, and airforce is prepared to meet ANY space launched threat. Only one thing can be assured, a fight with the Chinese will be a bloody one! General Wu Fei Change is prepared to lead the glorious Chinese Elite Armor Guard into battle at anytime, their loyality is unmatched in the world to their leader Jian Fu Lynn, China's "River of Good Fortunes".......
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