22-09-2004 06:39									#1
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dumb question yes... but how do I destroy cities? I dont see the option to do so, and how do you destroy your own cities ?

	22-09-2004 06:49									#2
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Right Click on the city. It's right near the bottom, just above the Civpedia options, 'Abandon City'.

	22-09-2004 08:29									#3
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To destroy other civs cities you must capture it with land units. Then you will be asked to select a new govenor ( make th ecity part of your empire) or raze it (destroy it). Captured cities lose 1 pop, so if you capture a size 1 city it is automaticaly destroyed.

	22-09-2004 21:01									#4
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Unless it's the capital of a civilization then you can capture it eve if its population is a 1.

	22-09-2004 21:26									#5
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quote: Originally posted by 1889 To destroy other civs cities you must capture it with land units. Then you will be asked to select a new govenor ( make th ecity part of your empire) or raze it (destroy it). Captured cities lose 1 pop, so if you capture a size 1 city it is automaticaly destroyed.

Not necessarily. If the city has enough culture to grow to it's second ring, then a size 1 city will be captured by you, not disbanded.

I'm not entirely positive though if you do need the second ring (i.e. minimum 10 culture points), or if you just need the opposing city to have 1 culture point or more for it to be captured instead of razed. Anyone else care to comment.

	22-09-2004 22:17									#6
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Rhoth, I'm almost sure it's any amount of culture. Seems like the autoraze criteria are size 1 and no culture.

	27-09-2004 00:19									#7
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A city will not be autorazed if it has a population of two or over or it has produced a single culture point even if the culture belongs to a third party.

	27-09-2004 12:26									#8
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One culture point is not enough. The city has to expand beyond it's initial 9 tiles.

I found out by playing 'chase the capital' with the AI. Size 1 cities were destroyed when they have had a capital for more than one turn, but not yet expanded.

	27-09-2004 18:40									#9
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quote: Originally posted by bongo One culture point is not enough. The city has to expand beyond it's initial 9 tiles. I found out by playing 'chase the capital' with the AI. Size 1 cities were destroyed when they have had a capital for more than one turn, but not yet expanded.

Yeah, I've had a similar experience with the same results.

	27-09-2004 23:12									#10
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I have not experienced this, and it runs contrary to what has been posted by Firaxians. If you have an example of this please post a screenshot or save as I would be interested in seeing this.

	28-09-2004 01:44									#11
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Have to add that the example I remember best probably was vanilla civ3, should be easy enough to reproduce though. Just play 'follow the capital'

	28-09-2004 04:45									#12
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Come to think of it, the save I've linked in the other thread is tailor made to finding out. Just hold off Nuremberg (believe it or not, Germany never built any culture there before America took over) for a turn.

Last edited by Solomwi on 28-09-2004 at 20:37

	28-09-2004 06:34									#13
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My experience was C3C, 1.22, BTW. AU mod, though, but I don't think that would matter.

	28-09-2004 17:23									#14
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Does anyone know if abandoning a city with AI citizens affects their attitude towards you or your reputation?

	28-09-2004 19:11									#15
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AFAIK, abandoning a city with a foreign majority counts as razing it. This hurts your reputation, mostly with the civ that held the majority - as if you had razed their city.

You can find more details here:
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3acad_ai_attitude.shtml

	28-09-2004 21:07									#16
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Ah, what would Apolyton be without the immense knowledge base called CFC .

	28-09-2004 21:18									#17
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Probably the same it is now, only with less players able to beat Sid.

	02-10-2004 11:03									#18
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quote: Originally posted by punkbass2000 My experience was C3C, 1.22, BTW. AU mod, though, but I don't think that would matter.

From the 6 player 2-a-day PBEM:

quote: quote: Originally posted by Andydog No, it automatically got destroyed because it had less than 10 culture points and only 1 pop, if I understand things correctly. Hence my waiting until the city gets to 10 culture or grows to size 2. Originally posted by alexman I believe you're right for C3C. They have been switching back and forth on this in earlier versions, so it's hard for me to keep it straight.

	02-10-2004 22:41									#19
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quote: AFAIK, abandoning a city with a foreign majority counts as razing it. This hurts your reputation, mostly with the civ that held the majority - as if you had razed their city.

(emphasis added)

I am sure that Modo meant attitude, not reputation.

	02-10-2004 23:16									#20
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Both, actually. They will condemn you for the razing (attitude) and you won't be able to make up for it (the change is irreversible), hence it worsens your entire diplomacy for the rest of the game (reputation). It is hard to make out a difference in this special case.