24-09-2004 21:32									#1
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I'm playing Morrowind, and I'm trying to get into it. My main question is :

1) How do governing attributes work? How do they factor into the skills they govern? How does "agility" factor into sneak, is it computed into the skill (bonuses like the d20 system) or does it make it easier to increase skill in the skills it governs?

2) I'm playing XBOX Game of the Year, will I miss out on any content that would otherwise be included in the PC version?

	24-09-2004 21:40									#2
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quote: 2) I'm playing XBOX Game of the Year, will I miss out on any content that would otherwise be included in the PC version?

Not at once, but you're missing many excellent plugins.

	25-09-2004 03:12									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Pythagoras I'm playing Morrowind, and I'm trying to get into it. My main question is : 1) How do governing attributes work? How do they factor into the skills they govern? How does "agility" factor into sneak, is it computed into the skill (bonuses like the d20 system) or does it make it easier to increase skill in the skills it governs?

I believe governing attributes affect your other skills in several ways. One, you cannot train a skill about it's governing attribute. Two, a higher agility should, IIRC, increase your sneak ability.

	25-09-2004 03:41									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Solver quote: 2) I'm playing XBOX Game of the Year, will I miss out on any content that would otherwise be included in the PC version? Not at once, but you're missing many excellent plugins.

but by that time you might be sick of the game anyway!

There's enough in Morrowind Game of the Year, to keep most people happy

	25-09-2004 03:41									#5
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...er, IMHO that is!

	25-09-2004 14:11									#6
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there is probably little chance you'll play out morrowind:goty before oblivion ships if you just started. in other words you probably don't need to get the pc version. the mods are good but by the time you'll want to play them tes 4 should be here or coming out soon.

	26-09-2004 18:57									#7
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Well, it's not like you want mods after you complete the game. At least I had some installed before completing, and yes, they increase the replay value tenfold. Morrowind is really one of those games that you can play, forget about, and then get back to after several months.

Oblivion isn't going to ship for another year at least, so we're not looking at anything so soon here. One can complete GOTY main quests, and do plenty of other stuff in that time.

	27-09-2004 00:12									#8
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GOTY gives you both expansion packs right? You should be fine.

Solver:
Any particular Mods you would recommend? Especially ones that keep the game challenging later on.

	27-09-2004 00:30									#9
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quote: Any particular Mods you would recommend? Especially ones that keep the game challenging later on.

I hear the realistic combat, or something like that, mod makes the fighting alot more fun.

I have Morrowind GOTY, but my comp can't handle it. (coulda sworn I had a 32 mb video card)

	27-09-2004 00:37									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 I have Morrowind GOTY, but my comp can't handle it. (coulda sworn I had a 32 mb video card)

If you do, then that's the problem.

	27-09-2004 00:59									#11
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quote: Solver: Any particular Mods you would recommend? Especially ones that keep the game challenging later on.

CreaturePack by Horatio and GIANTS are nice, first makes monsters tougher as you level up, second adds some new ones. Nerevarine Castle is a mod I love because it's simply spectacular in every aspect.

Besides these, there are some dozen other mods that I really, really like...

	27-09-2004 01:03									#12
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I wish I could patch my copy of Morrowind.

	27-09-2004 01:06									#13
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quote: CreaturePack by Horatio

Thanks! That's the one I was looking for. I may add the other ones later. I liked the look of 50 extra undead creatures in one of the Mods as well, forget what it's called.

	27-09-2004 21:18									#14
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Anybody know anything about my first question, that is:

quote: How do governing attributes work? How do they factor into the skills they govern? How does "agility" factor into sneak, is it computed into the skill (bonuses like the d20 system) or does it make it easier to increase skill in the skills it governs?

I cannot parse this sentence

quote: One, you cannot train a skill about it's governing attribute.

Should about be "above"?

	27-09-2004 22:37									#15
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Yes about=above.

The attribute score govern how easily a skill is raised, doesn's affect how well you do a certain skill.

The skill used governs how much an attribute can be raised when gaining a level.

ACK!

	28-09-2004 03:47									#16
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quote: 2) I'm playing XBOX Game of the Year, will I miss out on any content that would otherwise be included in the PC version?

Yes, sort of, there is some area, blood something that is included in the xbox version, and morrowind w/ the expansion pack for the pc. However IIRC somebody was telling me, back when we had a real whop-diddly-opper of a Morrowind thread gouing, that you can still get there, but there is a slight trick to it, and its not really like the PC where you walk into there.

Does this ring a bell w/ nebody?

	28-09-2004 08:19									#17
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Here's the place to start for new heads.

http://home.wnm.net/~bgriff/MW_Home.html

Around 80-90% of head and hair mods are re-textures of his meshes.

	29-09-2004 01:29									#18
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Awesome! Thanks for the great info guys.

I'm all for developers making more money by switching games to platforms such as the X-box, but if more and more games originally targetted for the pc are done this way, I think we will all be saddened by decreased content & modability . Though compared to other games, such as Deus Ex, nearly all the content seems to be present in Morrowind.

	29-09-2004 08:21									#19
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Nah, as long as you are aware of the differences/limitations of the console versions I don't see that it's a problem.

Theres plenty in the XBox version to keep the average gamer more than happy for months, but for the hardcore (or sad!) gamers that don't think that will be enough for them can buy the PC version and give real life a miss for 2 years or so.

As long as theres a choice and the buyer is aware, it can't be a bad thing to give the consumer more options

	29-09-2004 10:13									#20
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Hye if you wnat, we can restart the Morrowind dsicussion thread from the days of old. It was pretty fun, until it dies off Like NESing at Apolyton is.
To find out wtf I'm blathering about, quit your chicanery and haul your ramshackle arse over to the stories and diplomacy section.

	30-09-2004 04:37									#21
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everybody talks about mods, which ones? where do you find them?

I seen a list of mods, but they didn't seem to do much. Like add a shop or vendor. Who cares about that?

	30-09-2004 04:41									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Pythagoras I'm playing Morrowind, and I'm trying to get into it. My main question is : 1) How do governing attributes work? How do they factor into the skills they govern? How does "agility" factor into sneak, is it computed into the skill (bonuses like the d20 system) or does it make it easier to increase skill in the skills it governs? 2) I'm playing XBOX Game of the Year, will I miss out on any content that would otherwise be included in the PC version?

It may take a while to get into it. But it's worth it to keep it on your hard drive. I think I first started playing in 2002. It was only up until a few weeks ago I had any interest in playing the game. I played a little in 2003 and finished a few mages guild and fighters guild quests. But these past few weeks I have finally finished the game.

I can't say I like it as much as the infinity games (BG1 and 2, IWD 1 and 2, PST), but it's a worthy RPG. Exploration is a fun part of the game for me, the main reason why I continued playing. But now that I've explored everything (well not really- I still have 1/4 of the map unrevealed), I'm kind of bored of it. I may try some mods or buy the expansions.

	30-09-2004 04:47									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Solver quote: Solver: Any particular Mods you would recommend? Especially ones that keep the game challenging later on. CreaturePack by Horatio and GIANTS are nice, first makes monsters tougher as you level up, second adds some new ones. Nerevarine Castle is a mod I love because it's simply spectacular in every aspect. Besides these, there are some dozen other mods that I really, really like...

these sound interesting. how tough do they make them? hopefully not too tough. I don't like struggling in games

	30-09-2004 04:52									#24
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They can make the game a lot harder, but it's still cake if you know what you're doing.

	30-09-2004 05:12									#25
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because sometimes when exiting a tough dungeon, I do like to fight easy monsters for a change. Many of the monsters in the dungeons (I use dungeon as a generic term- this refers to all ruins etc.) are scaled to your level somewhat. Though at a certain points even skeleton chieftans are cakewalks.

And I don't even have the difficulty scale all the way up. I have it about 3/4 of the way up.

Does anyone know what those scales do exactly?

	30-09-2004 08:32									#26
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From the MW readme.

"Added Difficulty slider to Preference menu under Options. The Difficulty slider has 200 different settings that will either increase the amount of damage you deal and receive or reduce the amount of damage you deal or receive, depending on where you set the slider."

	30-09-2004 19:53									#27
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quote: these sound interesting. how tough do they make them? hopefully not too tough. I don't like struggling in games

Creature pack makes them just right. At lower levels, they are as default. However, the problem was that at level 20 no monster could challenge you, and that's what's fixed. At level 20 then, the easy monsters like Guars will still be easy, but with more HP nonetheless. Tougher ones, like the Daedra, will be tough enough. It's just right .