25-09-2004 16:11									#1
	PBEM sign-up thread : the random game Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

An independent person (not me, I want to play in this game) starts 4 games with all settings set to random (except world size : world size will be set to match the number of players).
He then sends each player 4 screenshots : one of his starting position in each game.
Each player evaluates each starting position from 4 (best) to 1 (worst).
Each game is then given a score, which simply is the difference between highest and lowest rating.
The game with lowest score, and on equal score, highest rate gets started.

Example:
game A gets rated 4 - 4 - 1 - 3 - 4 ( score = 3 )
game B gets rated 2 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 3 ( score = 1 )
game C gets rated 1 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 ( score = 1 )
game D gets rated 3 - 3 - 4 - 4 - 1 (score = 3 )

in this case, game B gets started.



Sign up here if you are interested.




players:
Dauphin
Makahlua
Modo44
Flandrien

Last edited by Flandrien on 15-10-2004 at 23:36

	12-10-2004 22:32									#2
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I'll be the independant person to set this up for you. I don't have time to play another game right now.

	14-10-2004 20:57									#3
	Got spare money?

I think random games are not very popular

	14-10-2004 21:11									#4
	Got spare money?

I'd like to join anyway. Carthaginians, please.

	14-10-2004 23:38									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

That's what I mean.
In a random game, you don't choose a tribe.
It is picked random.

	14-10-2004 23:52									#6
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Pffft. Ok, have it you way. I guess I'll have to tackle with somebody's RNG, but I'm good at it.

I'm still in.

	15-10-2004 01:25									#7
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Hmmm - intersting approach. In other words, use the game with the lowest deviation, so to speak.

Flandrien - I would love to. But me thinks I am at about my limit, and there are two more games in the works as we speak. I am going to have to pass.

There are a pile of new folks in the forum who might be up for it. Check out snakegurl's thread, and maybe try Grandpa Troll as well.

	15-10-2004 10:58									#8
	Tired of ads?

Better yet, embellish the rules some, then ask Beta to entice con into signing up...

	15-10-2004 11:24									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I'll bite Totatlly random should be interesting

	15-10-2004 17:43									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

I'll sign up.

Wake me when the game(s) start(s).

	15-10-2004 18:28									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

So far you've got:

Modo44 (GMT+1.5)
Flandrien (Belgium GMT +1)
Dauphin (GMT)
Makahlua (Texas GMT -6)

I don't know your time zones, but I think thats the play order. How many players do you want?

Last edited by 1889 on 15-10-2004 at 23:39

	15-10-2004 23:22									#12
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My location is England. After clocks change next week it will be GMT+0. So time wise I'm best playing after Flandrien.

	15-10-2004 23:30									#13
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My current time is GMT+2. It will be GMT+1 in two weeks.

	15-10-2004 23:42									#14
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OK. All changed up and ready to go if you're happy with four. Let me know if you want to wait for more, otherwise I'll just send it as soon as I can. That will be Sat AM at the latest.

	15-10-2004 23:43									#15
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4 players will do nicely I think

this will be the settings for each game

players = 4
(no AI)
world size = small
(not random, 4 players on a huge map won't work)
land mass = random
climate = random
temperature = random
age = random
barbarians = random
tribes = random
difficulty = regent
victory conditions = all active
(domination, space race, diplo, conquest, culture, wonder)
culturally linked start = OFF
respawn = OFF
preserve seed = ON
accelerated production = OFF
culture convert = ON
scientific leaders = ON
specials (regicide, victory point, princess) = OFF

	15-10-2004 23:44									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin My location is England. After clocks change next week it will be GMT+0. So time wise I'm best playing after Flandrien.

depends on if you like to play your turn early or late in the evening

	15-10-2004 23:46									#17
	Got spare money?

1889, you think you can set something up this weekend ?

	16-10-2004 00:54									#18
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I'll do it tonight probably. Please PM or mail addresses and passwords. I'll settle your first unit then send you a pic of each start. For the first player I'll just send the save.

	16-10-2004 01:57									#19
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I CAN'T RESIST. Can we do 5 on a small map? Will 5 still work with your proposed methodology, Kris?

If I'm too late, c'est la vie.

I am GMT-5 in a few weeks.

Last edited by Beta on 16-10-2004 at 08:18

	16-10-2004 10:25									#20
	Tired of ads?

The only way would be for me to play someones first turn.

If anyone wants to start 4 games and send me the saves I'll mail all the pictures out in the morning.

klemnrussell TA cableone TOD net

Turn order should be:

Modo
Flandrien
Dauphin
Beta
Makahula

If I dont have a save I'll just play Flandriens turn and get you going.

	16-10-2004 12:01									#21
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I'll make 4 random games and send them to you in a couple minutes.

[edit]
Saves sent to 1889.

Last edited by Modo44 on 16-10-2004 at 12:40

	16-10-2004 19:39									#22
	Put an end to popups!

Modo votes thus:

Game1 - 4 (best)
Game2 - 3
Game3 - 2
Game4 - 1 (worst)

I sent saves to Flandrien and Beta. I'll send pics to Dauphin and Makahula after I walk the dog.

	17-10-2004 01:35									#23
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email is a hotmail address

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	17-10-2004 01:56									#24
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Everyone has the saves. lets see how the votes go.

	17-10-2004 02:00									#25
	Got spare money?

A tough decision, but here is the verdict :

game 1 = 1
game 2 = 2
game 3 = 3
game 4 = 4

real simple

	17-10-2004 02:23									#26
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

4 being best, 1 being worst

Game 1 : 4
Game 2 : 2
Game 3 : 3
Game 4 : 1

	17-10-2004 03:58									#27
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I agree - tough choices...

4 being best; 1 being worst

Game 1 2
Game 2 1
Game 3 4
Game 4 3

Should be interesting to see how this turns out.

I think we should formally calll this game "Deviation" in honour of the statistical method of choosing the game.

	17-10-2004 11:51									#28
	Got spare money?

Now we're only waiting for Makahlua.

	19-10-2004 15:36									#29
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I think Makahlua is no longer interested.
Do we find another player (maybe grandpa Troll ) ?
Or do we start new games with 4 players ?

	19-10-2004 15:41									#30
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Have you PM'd Mak? If yes , then I say you ask Grandpa.