01-10-2004 22:15									#121
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I guess shoes is a bit of an exception - I tend to buy good ones. Good as in durable. My latest pair of jogging shoes is extreme - I bought them over two years ago, and only now are they starting to show signs of falling apart, after having been used practically daily since then, except a few months in the winter of 2002-2003. Spent something like $60 on them.

	02-10-2004 14:03									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison It's so materialistic isn't it, you pay for a name sewed/embroidered somewhere on the thing. The fact remains the same - I think there is rarely a quality issue now as they all seem to be made in sweatshops in China.

Right, it's a quality issue - or a quality assurance issue to be more precise. That's why it's great to buy the "overflows," they have the quality and not the price.

quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison To me, on so many levels, the fashion industry is the pinnacle of everything that is nasty about capitalism.

This is not even fashion. Fashion is nastier yet.

	03-10-2004 16:03									#123
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On the plus side, it's people like AS who keep the Western economies ticking.

	03-10-2004 19:24									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist On the plus side, it's people like AS who keep the Western economies ticking.

That's the negative side.

	04-10-2004 00:24									#125
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I tend to spend lots of money on dressy clothes because they last for YEARS. Plus the style stays the same so you can wear the same thing for a long time. But it's the casual stuff that is hard to pick out because the styles change so often.

That's where women come in handy cause they can help you pick out the stuff with you instead of you being all, "duhhhh what should I buy with this???"

	04-10-2004 00:49									#126
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Shopping with women Always more fun!

	04-10-2004 00:59									#127
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Isn't this the same log house used in Civ3 as Adam Smith's trading company?

	04-10-2004 01:10									#128
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I probably spent 100 bucks in the span of 5 years on clothing for myself (discounting of course the inevitible gifts from the parental units). But now that I'm in the real world. ...

	04-10-2004 01:19									#129
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I couldn't think of anything worse than shopping with women. They spend all day feeling and touching things, trying things on while the bloke knows that inevitably they will return to the first thing they tried on. And then that's it, another chunk of a man's life needlessly squandered...

	04-10-2004 01:30									#130
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That's why you pick it out together.

	04-10-2004 01:44									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison trying things on while the bloke knows that inevitably they will return to the first thing they tried on.

If it's lingerie, that isn't a bad thing.

	04-10-2004 01:56									#132
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Shopping is time squandered...

	04-10-2004 02:05									#133
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~200-300 Euros a year
It's getting more though.

You should have done a poll, btw.

	04-10-2004 14:19									#134
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue If it's lingerie, that isn't a bad thing.

Agreed.

	04-10-2004 15:40									#135
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This thread reminds me that I have to join the gym to justify the gym outfit I bought on the weekend.

	04-10-2004 15:40									#136
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A 'gym outfit'?

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yeah. It's so cute. A beige and black hooded jumper that zips up and matching reebok trousers that come down to about my mid calf. Plus gym shoes. Very 8-Mile when I wear it with the hood up.

	04-10-2004 16:37									#138
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This entire thread is pants.

	05-10-2004 00:21									#139
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quote: matching reebok trousers that come down to about my mid calf.

eww, Starchild! you wear capris! highwater boy!

	06-10-2004 08:18									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison It's so materialistic isn't it, you pay for a name sewed/embroidered somewhere on the thing. The fact remains the same - I think there is rarely a quality issue now as they all seem to be made in sweatshops in China.

totally missed this, but sorry - that's a bit of parroting if anything at all

When you start comparisons with your higher end group actually in the high end - quality definitely becomes a concrete factor. We're not talking about the same fabrics, or fabrication. We're not either talking about the same functional design or quality control

Furthermore, the more costly fashion brands generally have nothing to do with sweatshops or cheap Chinese labour. If you're thinking something more general like GAP, fine - but the actual upper brands and creams of quality are of Italian make, of German, of Dutch. In between - the labour starts to sink somewhat to your example - ie.) Turkish, Morrocan, etc; but all still in comparably superior quality. Hey, even a lot of Gap products are intrinsically superior to bare pricing, same design product

Granted - additional price paid is usually nearer to exponential the additional quality received, and there are plenty of market 'reputable' lines playing nothing more than niche rip off artist. In the end, it's pretty simple. Do you want a bombshell closet full of deteriorating products at 50$ - a manageable and simple closet half full of lasting, fully functional and date worthy products at $500 - or a lean rack of the latest, impeccably produced Eurotwat trend at $5000?

Some of us go for an average combination of the three

	06-10-2004 10:24									#141
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I spend approximately 200$ on clothes in an average year (including shoes, socks, and underwear).

	06-10-2004 10:25									#142
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My girlfriend spends around 6000$

	06-10-2004 10:34									#143
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your girlfriend's probably hot

	06-10-2004 10:39									#144
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i doubt it... we're dealing with KrazyHorse over here... kitten boy

	06-10-2004 10:40									#145
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Hasn't he posted pictures of his girl before? I recall her being hot, though obviously missing the necessary bits and pieces.

	06-10-2004 10:43									#146
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quote: I recall her being hot

say that again, Asher?

	06-10-2004 10:49									#147
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer say that again, Asher?

Hot, attractive, beautiful, sexy...

Something you would not understand.

	06-10-2004 10:53									#148
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You do realize we're talking about a woman, right?

	06-10-2004 10:56									#149
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer You do realize we're talking about a woman, right?

IIRC, it's a French-Canadian Woman.

I spent 18 years pretending to be straight, grew up in a society with heterosexual ideals, and I have eyes...I know what an attractive woman looks like.

I'm sure 99% of men know what an attractive man looks like, too. Most won't admit it.

	06-10-2004 10:57									#150
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quote: I'm sure 99% of men know what an attractive man looks like, too. Most won't admit it.

you know... just admitting a man is attractive doesn't necessarily make you a homosexual...

yeah but it doesn't help