02-10-2004 10:27									#31
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After seeing the last game live on when it clearly shouldn't have, I'd tend to agree with SnowFire.

	02-10-2004 11:30									#32
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* Sparrowhawk would like to see Sheep participate as a player for one game at least, if anyone else is willing to gm, for a little perspective

	03-10-2004 13:32									#33
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After this I would like all those whjo are joining to choose as well would the prefer 2 mafias, or the replacement rule. As a word of law mafias cannot kill mafias.

	03-10-2004 13:35									#34
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2 mafias... and the possibility for one mafia to kill another...

	03-10-2004 14:11									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio 2 mafias... and the possibility for one mafia to kill another...

	03-10-2004 15:10									#36
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And 2 mafias... and the possibility for one mafia to kill another...

	03-10-2004 15:39									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Hercules And 2 mafias... and the possibility for one mafia to kill another...

	03-10-2004 15:42									#38
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Is there an echo in here?

	03-10-2004 16:18									#39
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So very very tempting... but I'll refrain.

	03-10-2004 16:27									#40
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I'm most impressed. When I saw you had responded I thought I could predict what it would be.

	03-10-2004 18:02									#41
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2 Mafias, and they should know of each other. That's the way I'm used to play IRL.

	04-10-2004 02:22									#42
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2 mafias, they should not know of each other, and they should be able to kill each other, and votes should be public and not changeable.

Any experimentations with the model should be made in an Assassin game. If they work there, then we can discuss incorporating them.

	04-10-2004 02:25									#43
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Yep, votes should be final... but I'd like to see private votings (where all votes will be published at the killing)

	04-10-2004 02:26									#44
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Private voting worked well in Assassin. I wouldn't be opposed to incorporating it here.

	04-10-2004 02:47									#45
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If the votes are to be secret, the discussions might be a bit difficult to make... No, I lean towards the way Mafia is to be played: With public votes.

	04-10-2004 02:49									#46
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Joncha, who is the GM.

- Vote changing will still be allowed.

	04-10-2004 02:50									#47
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You're the boss...

	04-10-2004 02:52									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Sheep Joncha, who is the GM. - Vote changing will still be allowed.

And a great job you did of it last time..........

	04-10-2004 09:24									#49
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quote: Originally posted by joncha And a great job you did of it last time..........

	04-10-2004 10:12									#50
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If joncha GMs, I'm up for it.

Nikolai: I agree, IRL the Mafia have always worked together for me as well. The problem with doing that online is that it's impossible to control poor sports. Anybody who blurts out the name of his conspirators for whatever reason after getting killed, in front of anyone else, is asking not to get invited back for spoiling the game. However, spiteful Mafia who wish vengeance on their conspirators online can easily leak the name of the other mafia to one or two villagers without anyone being the wiser.

	04-10-2004 11:10									#51
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quote: As a word of law mafias cannot kill mafias.

Where were you when I was Mafia?



I agree, joncha will make a good GM.

	04-10-2004 11:51									#52
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Aw, shucks...

Sheep should finish what he started with this game (the introduction looks quite promising), but I'm up to GMing the next one.

	04-10-2004 11:57									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Sheep Joncha, who is the GM.

quote: Originally posted by joncha 2 mafias, they should not know of each other, and they should be able to kill each other, and votes should be public and not changeable. Any experimentations with the model should be made in an Assassin game. If they work there, then we can discuss incorporating them.

Sounds good to me

	04-10-2004 13:40									#54
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So basically nothing has changed since the last time I played..., good.

	04-10-2004 20:01									#55
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Well I know it is late. But is the road to the castle closed?

	04-10-2004 20:10									#56
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Why the heck are we discussing old rules such as vote changing that were clearly outlawed in mafia 2.0 (after Jamski's GMing)? Why are we returning to mafia 1.0 (when sheep started it) [admittedly Mafia is a good idea but the version that sheep started is, I'm convinced, near pointless since there's no story and it's just random] This is really a step backward.

	04-10-2004 20:15									#57
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I concur.

quote: Originally posted by Snowflake Well I know it is late. But is the road to the castle closed?

Well I'm sorry, but we were saving a place for HongHu. She may well turn up soon so it would be unfair to give you her place.

	04-10-2004 20:34									#58
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Hmmm I have inside knowledge that she is not interested in this game. In fact she is totally lost in somewhere very deep so she is not capable of doing much of anything else.

	04-10-2004 20:36									#59
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Oh and I agree that mafia 1.0 is kind of outdated. I'm sure it isn't compatible with many people's pcs.

	06-10-2004 06:05									#60
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I can't believe you morons killed me last game. It's kind of hard to kill people w/o an internet connection, doncha know?

And I've still got a couple of days travel ahead of me, so I'm out this game, maybe next one.