05-10-2004 05:24									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Another question is the Transfiguration. Matthew 17:2-4 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters--one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah." Moses died. So how can he be transfigured here, if all are to be unconscious until the day of Judgement?

he was resurrected right after his death

I don't remember the verses for why I think so (could look them up)

very questionable (expecially when it disagrees with other verses)

JM

	05-10-2004 05:32									#92
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quote: he was resurrected right after his death I don't remember the verses for why I think so (could look them up)

Please do.

It's a question I've been trying to answer.

	05-10-2004 05:34									#93
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quote: very easy to interpret that otherwise and there are so many other versuses which go against the idea of purgatory

Yes, but the two are together, purgatory and the saints.

So far, all you have shown me is that it seems possible for some to be raised to heaven, and that not all are unconscious until the day of judgment.

	05-10-2004 21:50									#94
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quote: Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters--one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah."

Sweet! I get Moses and Jesus as my neighbours . I'll keep them awake with Cradle of Filth until the collapse of organised religion from fatigue .

	05-10-2004 22:00									#95
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1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Reform Judaism (90%)
3. Neo-Pagan (89%)
4. New Thought (87%)
5. Liberal Quakers (85%)
6. Scientology (84%)
7. New Age (74%)
8. Mahayana Buddhism (72%)
9. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (71%)
10. Bahá'í Faith (69%)
11. Orthodox Judaism (67%)
12. Theravada Buddhism (66%)
13. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (64%)
14. Nontheist (64%)
15. Secular Humanism (64%)
16. Islam (60%)
17. Sikhism (60%)
18. Hinduism (58%)
19. Jainism (55%)
20. Taoism (50%)
21. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (41%)
22. Orthodox Quaker (35%)
23. Eastern Orthodox (24%)
24. Roman Catholic (24%)
25. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (21%)
26. Seventh Day Adventist (16%)
27. Jehovah's Witness (7%)

	05-10-2004 23:01									#96
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Whaleboy, aren't you elijah with a lower 'e'?

	05-10-2004 23:43									#97
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Shut up! I want my free house

	05-10-2004 23:54									#98
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1. Neo-Pagan (100%)
2. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (97%)
3. Liberal Quakers (95%)
4. Unitarian Universalism (95%)
5. New Age (93%)
6. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (85%)
7. Secular Humanism (83%)
8. Bahá'í Faith (75%)
9. New Thought (73%)
10. Taoism (71%)
11. Scientology (69%)
12. Reform Judaism (63%)
13. Mahayana Buddhism (62%)
14. Theravada Buddhism (61%)
15. Nontheist (60%)
16. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (57%)
17. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (51%)
18. Orthodox Quaker (50%)
19. Sikhism (42%)
20. Islam (34%)
21. Jainism (34%)
22. Orthodox Judaism (34%)
23. Jehovah's Witness (31%)
24. Hinduism (26%)
25. Eastern Orthodox (23%)
26. Roman Catholic (23%)
27. Seventh Day Adventist (19%)


No surprises there.

	06-10-2004 00:18									#99
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You'd like having a place of honour at every table, eh?

	06-10-2004 00:21									#100
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Only at Pesach .

	06-10-2004 00:46									#101
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Well, you won't fear being passed over.

	06-10-2004 00:47									#102
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I go drinking with the angel of death! Seriously, I have a date on friday

	06-10-2004 00:55									#103
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Expected result: 100% mainline to conservative christian/protestant.

Although I scored 99% match with Orthodox Quaker which is surprising.

	06-10-2004 02:37									#104
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I cuold be a liberal quaker...r rofl

	06-10-2004 02:44									#105
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more like a liberal quack

	06-10-2004 03:29									#106
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1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Liberal Quakers (91%)
3. Neo-Pagan (86%)
4. Mahayana Buddhism (85%)
5. Theravada Buddhism (81%)
6. Secular Humanism (78%)
7. New Age (77%)
8. Reform Judaism (72%)
9. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (70%)
10. Jainism (68%)
11. Taoism (65%)

I still think UU shouldn't be in there. If you read the description, every heading begins "Diverse beliefs...". It's a Pick n' Mix religious grouping which is just a "none of the above" option.

	06-10-2004 05:29									#107
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My results for that were strange. I got Reform Judaism 100%, Liberal Quaker 96%, Neo-Pagan 92%. Yeah, 'cause those are similar.

	06-10-2004 10:29									#108
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they're all pretty pacific and tolerant i guess...