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Raion is offline Raion
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Superpower 2 coming out this week! Increase the size of your Attachments

Following in the footsteps of Superpower, Superpower 2 is coming out this week, around Oct. 6 -- 7 2004!

Read about it, and also they have a forum for the previous game and current coming-out game!

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy...ew_6092508.html

Ambitious project again!

http://www.golemlabs.com/forums/

Multi-player will be added!

More like a modern day simulator game of Civilization with depth in the game, while commanding a made up game world. The first game varied, so this newer game may be more real, but have to read all about it again.

They had a training program with it so the computer could be trained (took days) to make mods and train the computer to play again the human.

Learns how you play, and the game could be trained in the first version!

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Hopefully it doesn't suck ****.

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sounds intriguing, will wait a while first...

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Jun 2003
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Been follwing the updates for the last 6 weeks. Gamespot gave them a nice write up but have to wait and see.I know that 2 years of work went into many new game designs and smarter ai.

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Jul 2002
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Tired of ads?

So, who has it yet?

I won't be able to get it for a few days due to finances.

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Terre Haute, IN USA
Sep 1999
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I was really dissapointed with SuperPower. I am afraid I won't take the chance with SP2 unless there is a demo and I really really like the demo.

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Sep 1999
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


There is a demo, and its a LOT better than Superpower.

Anyway, I can't wait to get it here...But its going to take forever to get here


Is the AI improved? I know the first one boasted a super fancy AI but when I played it, the AI made completely nonsensical moves like Luxemburg invading Taiwan.

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Jun 2003
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How is the diplomacy Diplomat?

Have a 4 day weekend and was going to pick up Superpower2 but has been pushed up to the 12th of October.
I hope its a great game. Have not been follwing a new game like this since Call to Power 2. Like Ctp2 there seems to be many who made mods to improve play in the first Superpower.One thing will be given with SP2 are tools with info on how to make there own mods and also how to make changes to the ai.

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Anyone yet?

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I just got back from BestBuy/EBGames/Gamestop and only EBGames did I find mention. The guy said they should be receiving a box or two soonly, so check back later this afternoon/evening. Unfortunately, I just found out I might have to rent a tux for a formal dinner tomorrow night and won't have money for the game until next mid-week if that's the case.

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Well, Best Buy didn't want my money even after giving me a 10% off coupon 'cause they still didn't have it; EBGames still hasn't received it; Walmart don't gots it (whoopdeef*ckingdoo, a couple cents off of the regular $29.99 ). So I just placed an order off of Amazon.com w/free shipping, so sometime around the end of the month it should be delivered. That works out better for me 'cause it would be a distraction that I can't afford for the next week or two; I need to focus on school stuff.

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the demo won't work for me. It says it can't connect.

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Well? What did your friend say about it?

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Oh well... that´s a very annoying bug

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Oct 2001
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I think the only bug that would be more annoying is the game crashing after hitting "New Game".

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Sorry, but the single most annoying bug possible is the one that prevents you from installing the game in the first place.

*cough* Millenia: Altered Destinies *cough*

Anything beyond that (re:formats your hard-drive) is not a bug but a virus.

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Well it left Bumblefnck, Kentucky 'bout 6pm Saturday. I did free shipping, so later this week, perhaps the weekend.



Edit: Auto-censor blocking the name of a city?

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Pretty pitiful review on Gamespot.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy...er2/review.html

And what's the story with StarForce copy protection? I was strongly leaning toward getting this game, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe I'll just wait for Supreme Ruler 2010.

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That review doesn't leave much room for this game to be any good. Let's see what our house specialists have to say about it.

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That review doesn't leave much room for this game to be any good. Let's see what our house specialists have to say about it.


I was so hoping that SP1 or SP2 would provide a realistic geopolitical simulator but if the review is to believed, that is not likely to happen. Why in the world does the AI still do wacky stuff like having Germany invading Taiwain? I want countries to at least pretend to act like they do in real life.

Heck Middle East: Conflict Simulator is more realistic that SuperPower.

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Even when the bullets aren't flying, strangeness abounds. We witnessed [....], the terrorist group Hizbullah winning national elections in Mauritius


Sounds a classic game of sorts.

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I'll be playing once I've finished unpacking it.

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Still Playing SP1

Picked up SP1 when it first game out -didnt care for it. But with patches 1.4 and mods this the game now has new life. Someone named Roko dug into the ai files and made new files -trained the EHE ai program to change the way ai acts. Some nations are at cold war stance and most hot spots are in the middle east . Alot more believeable ai. This happens with many games . Take Hearts of Iron the C.O.R.E mod took the game to its next level. A labor love for the game. So far the reviews on SP2 has not been good. Too many CTD,s its too unstable and odd actios by the ai.Like Finland declaring war on the US for no reason. For now its a wait and see if they can patch this game so it will work right.

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It's been near 3 days and the box has only gotten as far as New Bumblefnck, KY...just outside Cincinnati, Ohio. It hasn't even left the state yet!

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I played the demo. I have to admit that the demo dramatically improved my impressions of the game.

Overall, the game is a huge improvement over the first one. The graphics and interface are much better. The AI in the limited time I played seemed decent. The game also introduces some new things to control like internal laws. I feel like you can do a lot more to affect your country than you could in SP1. The tactical battles are much much better now than in SP1. Also, on the strategic level, wars are much better now as you can move your armies to seize provinces.

Having said all the positives, I do have some negative comments.

It seems like it is very easy to miss important events unless you pause the game every 5 seconds. You get so many messages or events that you basically need to pause the game to properly respond to each one. In the demo, after I invaded Ukraine, I was attacked by the US. I should have gotten a declaration of war message or something. Nope. The first time I knew something was up was when the battle report window came up (I lost the battle) and I noticed that the US flag was displayed next to the enemy army. So I paused the game, and switched the map display to show armies as flags and low and behold there were like 10 big US armies all over Ukraine kicking my butt!

You should not have to cycle tons of messages and events to find out that a major power declared war on you.

IIRC, SP1 was turn based. SP2 seems to have moved to a real-time format where you can pause when you need to check something or give orders. Frankly, I think turn-based was better.

Lastly, is their a way to prune the list of nations you are interested in? I hate to have to cycle through a list of every single nation on the face of the Earth every time I want to send a treaty or view a stat.

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Finally just arrived.

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Four words:
Flaming. Wall. Of. Death.

The Earth is so pretty when it burns...

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Damn the Annex Bug!!!

Anyway, currently playing as China. It's the 2080's and I've got 5000 100mt ICBM's at my disposal. No one wants to play with me, so I have to make my own fun. All techs are maxed out at 10 and I'm clobbering SE Asia with almost no losses (a soldier here, a tank there...those North Koreans are pretty robust). However, because of the Annex Bug I cannot fully absorb them or the game with crash to desktop, so every once in a while I have to mop up enemy forces that crop up. While the world is pissed off with me, like I said, none of them want to take me on. I hope patch 1.2 solves the bug; very annoying.

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Tass, is that you over at GL in the World at War thread?

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Perhaps I should have made it clearer: I do have v1.1 installed. GL claimed the annex bug was fixed in that patch, but MANY people, myself included here, report it was not.

 
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