07-10-2004 11:45									#1
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Well, here it is, what do you think, vote and pontificate.

Please, and since Atari is the publisher of Rome: Total War, I am tempted to amend my 'boycott' of Atari products, just because the buzz about this game and considering it's nature, buying it is probably a good vote for them to keep making games of this nature. TBS with zoomed in battles!

Anyway, which is witch?

	08-10-2004 05:43									#2
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Not wanting to be a hypocrite, I have not voted for I do not have Rome: Total War. I have thought favorably about getting it, however was interested in what other Civ players thought, not all the game reviewers.

So, I have not voted and cannot tell if anyone has voted. If someone has voted could you enlighten us to what the count again 'if any is'?

Mayhap, a few more weeks will be more telling...

	08-10-2004 08:42									#3
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There's no banana option, or I would.

	08-10-2004 09:44									#4
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You got me there!

	08-10-2004 10:06									#5
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Actually, there's a View Results link that lets you see them without voting. C3C is up 3-0 right now.

	08-10-2004 10:30									#6
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Gosh, thanks

Interesting how even this beleagered game endures

	08-10-2004 15:03									#7
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it depends...

the civ scope is larger but the total war concept is cooler...

a combination of the two perhaps ? *drivel*

	08-10-2004 20:18									#8
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Well, I voted for "Conquests the beleagered" just because it is still my number one game.

I have heard a lot about this Total War game. Is this the same game that the History Channel has been using in one of it's programs to illustrate ancient military conflicts? I can't recall the shows name... maybe "Decisive Battles"??? Anyone know?

	08-10-2004 22:56									#9
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That's right SG.

They've used it to show how a few of the ancient battles went. Pretty interesting program, though I wish it was about more modern events.

	09-10-2004 02:17									#10
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I agree, it's a good program. I might have to check out Total War.... I just simply don't have the free time like I used too.... I guess I should wait until the price reduction one year from now. I can get all the patches at that time as well.

	09-10-2004 03:12									#11
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We've got film for modern events, Trip.

I enjoy the program, and the format lends itself well to the ancient battles. I suspect it could work well right up through the First World War without a whole lot of change, too, though. Maybe when they run out of ancient battles, they'll work their way up the timeline.

	09-10-2004 05:14									#12
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Well folks! This thread is sure enlightening...

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntota...cID=10872.topic

Gosh, the whinning is so similiar...

I think I will hold off and keep polishing my Mod, it is big-time FUN and I already paid the 'freight'.

	09-10-2004 17:58									#13
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It's a bit like comparing apples and oranges--no, wait, oranges and tangerines. They're similar, yet different enough to be two seperate experiences.
I just got RTW and I'm very impressed. I'd put it on a par with C3C, and can't choose one over the other. As there was no option for 'equal', nor even a banana option, I could not vote.
Give RTW a try. Maybe, like me, you'll split precious gaming time between the two.

	09-10-2004 23:35									#14
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Ya, sorry for no banana option, I did not vote yet either but because I have not given in to the temptation to buy it. I am on a wait and see more mode. Thanks for your imput.

However, in the long-run I usually settle to one or two games, well the competition for our attention is sure nice.

	10-10-2004 12:16									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Solomwi We've got film for modern events, Trip.

More modern as in post-400 AD.

	11-10-2004 09:29									#16
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Conquests is a great game

I have had quite a bit of fun with the Rome demo though

sorry to have seen several Conquests pbem players leave games recently due to Total War - Rome

as sad day indeed

	11-10-2004 20:49									#17
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I own conquests and have spent many countless hours playing it. I love the game and won't stop playing it. I have never played a conquest to date however, only the epic game.

That being said let me say that R:TW is definately the new ass kicker. It's like playing Civilization but with real time battles, and not the clickfest that you'd expect. The realtime battles involve a lot of thought, just like a good chess game!

	17-10-2004 03:07									#18
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Here is for an official NEWS update. It is 11 votes for Conquest the beleagered and 6 votes for Rome: Total War.

Of course we are honored by forthright honesty of all 'voters', namely that they are 'veterans' of Conquests (sorry I did not mention that) AND they purchased and played Rome: Total War, not just the demo. (gee, sorry I did not mention that criteria either).

And we have two threads to glean insight from that are of merit. One is posted above that goes to disenchanted R: TW players many who incidently kept making what appeared to be 'favorable' comparison to CIV3 et al. Interesting otherwise they sounded just like us. Imagine that!

And here, in our own forum, guess what, yes that 'other game' forum there is a long thread in honor of R: TW. Now, as a unbiased reporter (trust me ) I am only interested in the facts. Yes, is R: TW worth 50 bucks now?

Well, this thread above here in our beloved forums I have read twice, and was almost swayed to buy R: TW myself! I know, I know that is hard to believe. Except for one little nagging feeling, yes folks, in looking over the roster of 'traiters' posting I kept getting this nagging dirty feeling, like I looking in to a bunch of whores let loose in a forbidden cookie jar!

And I know Halloween is coming up, but geeze guys, show a little restraint here. I mean, is it really that good... ?

Well this is the question and I remain 'undecided', however I CAN smell the cookies, and you know, night cometh and sneaking about is going to get easier, especially when the PRICE lowers!

With piles of smiles...

	17-10-2004 22:53									#19
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I'm not really a wargame fan, so Conquests. Then again, the Total War series is the aristocracy of historical military strategy. Anyways, you can't compare the two. You get the most fun out of Civ by other means than warmongering.

	19-10-2004 00:37									#20
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I got this game when it came out. An amazing game with many elements of civ3 in it. If both games were merged, it would be crazy.

	22-10-2004 14:37									#21
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Geeze guys, 11 to 8 now! Wow, and this is without a patch or mods available, just vanilla. Hard to believe. Anyone know when the price shall be droping?

	23-10-2004 10:35									#22
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Wouldn't this thread belong in the Other Games forum? Are we looking for an unbiased opinion on Conquest in the Civ3-Conquests forum?

	23-10-2004 11:11									#23
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Well I do not care where this thread lands. My objective, I thought was clear, I wanted fellow Conquest players of some report who additionally have purchased and played Rome: Total War and then rendered their opinion and/or vote. Why? I respect those of like interest opinion more than everyone elses.

I have no axe to grind in this and am not yet convinced to buy a game which may be over-rated but certainly as of now, over-priced. And this game is the same Publisher as CIV.

However again, I am no expert on Forum Protocol, let the wiser ones call it.

Piles of Smiles,
Still playing my modded Conquest

Oh and it is half-time score of....

14 votes for Conquests
8 votes for Rome: Total War

	23-10-2004 15:26									#24
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I've heard good things about Rome: Total War. Not sure if I'd buy it yet.

	30-10-2004 19:43									#25
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Comparing Rome: Total War to Civ III is apples and oranges.

That said though, I am having a lot more fun playing Rome Total War at the moment. I love watching the battle unfolding, my cavalry mowing down a unit of hoplites in phalanx from behind, the enemy's arrows glancing off the shields of my Legionnaires in their patented Testudo formation, enemy walls crumbling as my sappers dig out the ground from underneath them.

But in a nutshell, both games are suitably epic. Civ III is epic in everything outside of the actual battles, whereas the battles in Rome TW are the most epic experience of that game.

	31-10-2004 01:10									#26
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I think I'd have to vote for total war though I haven't played it yet. I just tend to like the ne the block.

	31-10-2004 02:07									#27
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Is RTW worth the money ? Yes!!!

Is it better than Conquests ? No!!!

I have both and I have put several hours into both

Its a superb game and as others have said, for me the ultimate game would a Civ game with Total war battles, this is surely something that will one day happen.

I loved MTW too and played it extensively and had great fun with it, i will probably play RTW for many more hours to come but I will always come back to Civ, the best game of all time

	02-11-2004 04:16									#28
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I loved R:TW for about 2 weeks, then got a bit burrned out. OTOH, I haven't touched C3C in a month. Waiting on patches in each case

	05-11-2004 18:15									#29
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Rome Total War is far better. They're not even in the same league.

	05-11-2004 20:00									#30
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My son just game me Rome Total War for my birthday and from what I've seen so far I'm loving it. But I'm struggling to grasp it all, as a newbie. I don't mean that critically, it's a matter of finding out what everything is all about -- same as in Conquests.

Sir Ralph: your comment "Rome is much better" makes me think you're quite familiar with it. Can you advise me which is the best forum site to hook up with to learn more about it?

Thanks

By the way, I agree that comparing them is comparing apples and oranges.