12-10-2004 00:43									#31
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OOOH LETS PUNISH TERESA FOR HAVING AN OPINION! WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING! UNLESS ITS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE ME A PIE!

	12-10-2004 00:46									#32
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quote: Like all of Kerry's campaingn slogans, what the Saudi Arabain oil free thing is missing is the all important "how" section.

Not only that, but whether or not the US is totally independent of ME oil is irrelevant as well a unrealistic. Since oil is a global commodity, we would have to have all of our allies, friends, and big trading partners (i.e., pretty much everybody on this globe) independent of ME oil as well.

quote: OOOH LETS PUNISH TERESA FOR HAVING AN OPINION! WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING! UNLESS ITS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE ME A PIE!

If her opinions are indefensible, she shouldn't offer her opinions for public consumption.

	12-10-2004 00:51									#33
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It's not like they will stop selling oil to USA because they don't like you

	12-10-2004 00:56									#34
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Japher, yeah but at least he has the balls to say it

	12-10-2004 00:58									#35
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Ollie: Actually, they would. The US and Saudi Arabia came up with a grand bargain at the beginning of the oil embargo. We would respect their ownership of the fields and not take them over through force, and they would sell to us at reasonable market prices.

We don't know if any future Saudi regimes would honor such a bargain, even if there are certainly huge non-military pressures for them to supply everybody.

	12-10-2004 00:59									#36
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quote: Originally posted by DanS If her opinions are indefensible, she shouldn't offer her opinions for public consumption.

That's right... nobody should have opinions that doesn't agree with yours.

freedom of speech is for commiedirtyliberals and dumbwomen!

	12-10-2004 01:00									#37
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Do you have anything of value to offer to this discussion?

	12-10-2004 01:01									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Sava OOOH LETS PUNISH TERESA FOR HAVING AN OPINION! WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING! UNLESS ITS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE ME A PIE!

OOH LET'S MAKE A STRAWMAN AND POST IN ALL CAPS

	12-10-2004 01:03									#39
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Do you have anything of value to offer to this discussion?

Do you?

You know, people on the right tell me that George Bush isn't a liar because I can't PROVE what he knew and didn't know.

Well, PROVE to me that George Bush's motive for this war WASN'T OIL, and your criticism of Teresa will be valid. If not, shut your pie hole and leave the anti-kerry whining to the likes of Fez and Diplomat.

just for the record, however, I don't believe oil was the key motivation in going to war in Iraq... but I defend Teresa's (or anyone elses) right to speak their beliefs on the matter.

	12-10-2004 01:04									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Sava OOOH LETS PUNISH TERESA FOR HAVING AN OPINION! WOMEN SHOULDN'T BE THINKING! UNLESS ITS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE ME A PIE!

OMFGG!! TEH BUSH SCREWED UP AGIN> GIVIN DA VOTE TO DME STOOOPID AFGHANI WOMEN WHO SHOULD BE MAKIN US PIES!!

	12-10-2004 01:06									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe OMFGG!! TEH BUSH SCREWED UP AGIN> GIVIN DA VOTE TO DME STOOOPID AFGHANI WOMEN WHO SHOULD BE MAKIN US PIES!!

and if you think that things in Afghanistan are going to change the way Bush's says it is, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

	12-10-2004 01:06									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Sava just for the record, however, I don't believe oil was the key motivation in going to war in Iraq... but I defend Teresa's (or anyone elses) right to speak their beliefs on the matter.

Spot On! I likewise defend anyone rights to refer to her as a pompous nutbag for espousing ludicrous statements.

	12-10-2004 01:07									#43
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This thread has quickly degenerated into dumb arguments and spam.

	12-10-2004 01:08									#44
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Yummy!

	12-10-2004 01:08									#45
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quote: Well, PROVE to me that George Bush's motive for this war WASN'T OIL, and your criticism of Teresa will be valid.

The NPV of the income stream from the Iraqi oil is hugely negative, when the costs of military action are factored in.

Even assuming it was about oil, my argument still stands.

quote: but I defend Teresa's (or anyone elses) right to speak their beliefs on the matter

And I have a right to point out that she is being naive in the extreme at best and lying at worst.

	12-10-2004 01:08									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Spot On! I likewise defend anyone rights to refer to her as a pompous nutbag for espousing ludicrous statements.

So do I... except DanS isn't just attacking her statements, he's saying she shouldn't offer them at all.

Go ahead and attack Teresa on her statements all you want, but don't suggest she shouldnt' express her beliefs. Otherwise you're just a fascist in disguise.

	12-10-2004 01:09									#47
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quote: he's saying she shouldn't offer them at all.

I did not. Why don't you just leave this thread? You aren't adding anything.

	12-10-2004 01:11									#48
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quote: Originally posted by DanS she shouldn't offer her opinions for public consumption.

Now go to Newsmax or freerepublic.com with the rest of the douches...

thank you , you've been pwned... have a nice day

	12-10-2004 01:13									#49
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Umm, he hasn't.

	12-10-2004 01:15									#50
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quote: Originally posted by DanS http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto...rry_1&printer=1 Besides the mistaken implication that we are in Iraq primarily for oil, doesn't this strike y'all as a little naive and a dangerous thing to say? What happens if a revolution happens in Saudi Arabia and the spigot gets turned off? Could happen. Also, we have our sailors, especially, all over the world becase of the dictates of the oil trade. Is Heinz Kerry repudiating this long standing policy?

Kerry would not even send troops overseas to defend our shores, unless of coarse France says it is OK.

	12-10-2004 01:16									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant Kerry would not even send troops overseas to defend our shores, unless of coarse France says it is OK.

YES, KERRY WOULD SURRENDUR TO PURETIO RICO!!@@!@

	12-10-2004 01:16									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar This thread has quickly degenerated into dumb arguments and spam.

	12-10-2004 01:17									#53
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all this thread WAS, was dumb arguments and spam...

	12-10-2004 01:17									#54
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quote: Originally posted by DanS The NPV of the income stream from the Iraqi oil is hugely negative, when the costs of military action are factored in.

Who would add apples to pears? The military action is paid by the tax payer and his children. The revenue from the oil goes to Halliburton & Co. Nicely done!

	12-10-2004 01:17									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Sava YES, KERRY WOULD SURRENDUR TO PURETIO RICO!!@@!@

Unless France says no.

	12-10-2004 01:18									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Sava all this thread WAS, was dumb arguments and spam...

Incorrect. You ruined it.

	12-10-2004 01:19									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Incorrect. You ruined it.

	12-10-2004 01:21									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant quote: Originally posted by Sava YES, KERRY WOULD SURRENDUR TO PURETIO RICO!!@@!@ quote: Unless France says no.

France never turns down the opportunity for a good surrender.

	12-10-2004 01:21									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Who would add apples to pears? The military action is paid by the tax payer and his children. The revenue from the oil goes to Halliburton & Co. Nicely done!

Do you even know what Halliburton's role is in Iraq, or for that matter, when they were in Bosnia?

	12-10-2004 01:22									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe France never turns down the opportunity for a good surrender.