14-10-2004 09:10									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia the second time around, the yankee rotation will get rocked. everyhorse has his day, eh lieber?

When playing the red sox, most certainly.

	14-10-2004 09:10									#62
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I hate the Yankees as much as everyone else does, but the Curse ain't going to go away any time soon.

	14-10-2004 09:12									#63
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That's not a curse. That's playing shitty baseball.

	14-10-2004 09:13									#64
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Andf the Sox won't win until they play some good ball against the Yankees.

	14-10-2004 09:23									#65
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quote: and dont tell me about our inability to take on mariano - we own him. remember that 3 run homer off him on july 24? his save percentage against us is around 70%. thats low compared to the rest of the league.

Except in the LCS where Rivera is now 6 for 6 in save opportunities vs. the Sox. Step up big when it counts or go home.

You're knowledge of sports is a joke.

And the statement of the Yankees not having a winning record vs. teams with records over .500 is also incorrect and was proven wrong in your previous thread by Imran... who is the one guy that impresses me more than anyone with his ability to be OBJECTIVE and factual.

Take a lesson.

	14-10-2004 09:39									#66
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Why gee, thanks OW . I'll even refrain from cursing the Yankees for that kind remark .

	14-10-2004 10:02									#67
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quote: You're knowledge of sports is a joke.

aawwww. is someone unhappy that their pretty boys are getting bashed by those low dirty blue collar red sox fans? cant handle it even when winning? tell arod for me that he forgot to change his uniform in between innings.

quote: Take a lesson.

whatever you say captain america

	14-10-2004 10:59									#68
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I handle it just fine. You simply are a sports moron. :-P~~

And thats Mr. Captain America.

quote: Why gee, thanks OW . I'll even refrain from cursing the Yankees for that kind remark

No problem ,Imran. You deserve it.... you keep to facts and back it with stats in a very objective manner. Thats not easy to do for fans in general.

	14-10-2004 12:50									#69
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too bad $teiny cant sight that check, hes got tendinitis in his hand

'its just been overworked'

too bad he doesnt qualify for the vsa check card cuz he already went over his limit this month, and has bad credit (ex convicts tend to have bad credit as we all know)

	14-10-2004 18:27									#70
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Wow, great game. Lieber was fantastic! What really impressed me was the 16 pitch at-bat against Damon. Damon was the very definition of "pest" and Lieber just kept after him until he got him out (granted, it was a sharp liner) and then didn't fold after that. Hell, he threw 82 pitches in 7+ innings. Wow.

Pedro, as I expected, pitched well. Also as I expected, the Yanks did their wait-him-out thing and got his pitch count up. And it worked like it usually does - they scratched 3 runs off him in 6 innings. That has been the formula for years and it worked again. Bravo.

Boston isn't done, of course, but it's sure nice to be up 2-0. Bronson (aka "Brandon" - McCarver, you ****ing idiot) Arroyo is a pretty good pitcher and has pitched well against the Yanks. Wakefield typically pitches well against the Yanks, although he didn't do very well in Game 1. I expect the teams to split the next two games. The key will be game5 - I'm assuming Shilling is done (that really is some shitty luck - it's stuff like that that makes people believe in curses) and Lowe must pitch. That sounds pretty good to me.

By the way, I think we can ALL agree on one thing: Fox is absolutely terrible. It's difficult to watch. From the ridiculous "Star Wars" thing to open game 1, to that moronic "skippy" talking baseball thingy, to the downright retarded Tim McCarver... it's awful. The only saving grace has been Al Leiter.

-Arrian

	14-10-2004 21:42									#71
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The only think I really dislike on Fox is the whole 'flame' graphic they show when they display the pitch speed on the scoreboard. It's silly. I can deal with 'Scooter' (not skippy) for the kids (Fox actually trying to pander to the kids? Now can we have a freaking DAYTIME World Series game to further do this?).

The BoSox's bats have to heat up, and while Brown may pitch well, I'm not sure that Hernandez/Vazquez will. I still think this'll be a good series. Any talk of a sweep (blame talk radio) is totally premature.

	14-10-2004 21:48									#72
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Oh, ok, Scooter, not Skippy. Whatever. It's awful, and aimed at people (kids) who should be in bed by the middle of the game.

How can you not want to kill Tim McCarver? He's atrocious! His "analysis" is total BS, he can't get people's names right... arg!

The graphics are typical Fox. This is the network that brought us the flaming hockey puck. The horror!

Honestly, I really wish the games were being done by the NESN crew (Remy ). Or even the YES! people.

-Arrian

	14-10-2004 21:51									#73
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quote: The BoSox's bats have to heat up, and while Brown may pitch well, I'm not sure that Hernandez/Vazquez will. I still think this'll be a good series. Any talk of a sweep (blame talk radio) is totally premature.

I'm thinking a split of the next two games is a reasonable expectation, but of course the Sox are capable of winning both. I think Brown will get shelled in game 3, and I'm hoping the Yanks shell Wakefield in game 4. If El Duque's shoulder is ok and he can hit 90, we'll be ok. If not, and Vasquez pitches? Oh my, it's a whole new series.

Still, I have to like the situation.

-Arrian

	14-10-2004 21:52									#74
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Yeah, Scooter may be awful, but at least they are trying. There has been a big problem in kids not being as interested in baseball. A few scraps to the tikes doesn't hurt (IMO).

As for McCarver... after watching football coverage with Madden and Phil Simms and Greg Gumbel, McCarver is no worse and is probably better that those jokers. Relatively he doesn't bother me.

Think NESN and YES! should pass to ESPN or WGN's crew. At least for impartiality's sake .

	14-10-2004 21:59									#75
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I actually think the NESN guys are very good overall, and pretty impartial (the actual booth guys, not the post-game crew. Eck and Rice are totally partisan).

ESPN would be fine with me too. But then I might have to listen to Joe Morgan, who sometimes irritates me. Still, he beats the hell out of McCarver.

-Arrian

	14-10-2004 22:02									#76
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Send Morgan up a creek . Then have Berman doing play-by-play and have two color guys: one Red Sox and one Yankee. Like Bill "The Spaceman" Lee and Don "Mr. Baseball" Mattingly. Watch the sparks fly .

	14-10-2004 22:08									#77
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That might be the worst broadcast EVER. Or the funniest. Or both.

-Arrian

	14-10-2004 22:15									#78
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I believe there was a football broadcast experiment that one of the networks did when they showed the entire game without commentary, like you were there. It would probably work better with baseball. Just have the computer graphics showing who was up and let you listen to the crowd noise and field stuff.

	14-10-2004 22:18									#79
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I wouldn't mind that too much, although occasionally it's good to actually have commentary (coupled with instant replay). They did do a good job of showing the Curt Shilling was blatantly injured the other night, for instance.

And I appreciate some decent analysis. Like I said, Leiter has been good.

It's just that the "name" guys tend to really, really suck ass. They're trying to do the folksy thing and appeal to the average fan. Which of course pisses me off, because I'm neither folksy nor an average fan.

-Arrian

	14-10-2004 22:21									#80
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I think the whole 3 men in a booth thing is a mistake. I realize you want to make it seem more 'special' and thus increase the booth as the season gets later and later, but the 2 men in the booth ALWAYS works best.

	15-10-2004 01:57									#81
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Changing tack a bit... looks like the weather forecast for tomorrow night in Boston is bad. The game may be rained out.

If that happens, Pedro could be brought back to pitch Game 5 (if necessary, which I think it will be) on normal rest, in Fenway Park. Pedro in Fenway is tougher than Pedro @ Yankee Stadium.

In other news, Shilling is officially not going to start game 5 - Derek Lowe will. Mmmm, yummy.

-Arrian

	15-10-2004 23:17									#82
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nah, its gonna rain, that makes pedro game 5, and lowe game 6 and arroyo game 7.

	15-10-2004 23:19									#83
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Assuming you get to those games, of course... Care to make any more predictions? What is it now, Sox in 6?

Lowe in game 6 in Yankee Stadium? He'll get shelled (assuming there is a game 6).

-Arrian

	16-10-2004 04:03									#84
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i predict sox in 6

	17-10-2004 08:32									#85
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3 wins == 4 wins in this year's ALCS. Why not just default the next game...

	17-10-2004 08:35									#86
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Way to bump this thread making my thread look unnecessary.

	17-10-2004 08:50									#88
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Yankees.

Salary cap = the reason why I watch football and why I don't watch baseball.

	17-10-2004 09:15									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Yankees. Salary cap = the reason why I watch football and why I don't watch baseball.

That's stupid.

It has nothing to do with the fact that they're entirely different sports?

	17-10-2004 09:39									#90
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I like knowing that one team isn't going to dominate every year.