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Remulak is offline Remulak
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Aug 2004
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I have a question. When I have an elite unit which pops out a GL, it seems that I can never get another GL from that same elite unit. Is this true? Is this some restriction that you can only get one Great Leader from each elite unit.

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Yes. One GL per unit tops.

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...until you upgrade that elite unit, that is. Once you upgrade it, it becomes a vet and after being promoted back to elite, it will be able to produce another GL.

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...you can recognize Elites who do not have the ability to generate a Leader by the asterisk after their name.

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...in some versions.

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...except that this is the C3C forum.

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...d'oh.

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Oct 2003
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C3C gives you the chanceto rename the Elite unit once it pops a GL.

I was just putting the * there, didn't even know other versions did that

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Feb 2003
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Since you won't get another leader with it, a good strategy is to add that Elite * unit to the army you are about to build from the leader.

Remulak is offline Remulak
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Aug 2004
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I usually do add that elite to my army, especially if it is a cavalry unit.

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Oct 2002
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I do tend to want to use the army right away, and the elite* is usually somewhat beaten up... Not gonna attack with him.

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Sep 2002
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I think you can rename units without waiting for them to produce a Great Leader.

Barinthus is offline Barinthus
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Jan 2004
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Click the button that says 'ABC' or press shift-n.

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Nov 2000
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  Old Post 16-10-2004 05:56
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You can rename in C3C by cliking on the "ABC" rename button at the bottom of the screen. I do it all the time. I have made a habit of not only putting an * but the year and the civ that granted the GL.

*Spain 1043AD Cavalry

Then I do a simular thing to the Army.

*11th Combat 1043AD Army

or if it is from Academy.

*12th Cadet 1233AD Army

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I name the GL poppers after the city they were trying to take (or hold). I rename all the battleships and carriers.

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I played one game where I strictly named all units produced. 1st Infantry, 2nd Infantry, etc. It was a serious game of micromanagement.

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Dec 2002
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I always use military nicknames (like Rico's Roughnecks in Starship Troopers) that is appropriate to the unit and race. Once as Carthage I named an elite unit "Hannibal's Cannibals".

Barinthus is offline Barinthus
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Jan 2004
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I do name my units that became Elite* - did not know it could be done with normal units.

Playing Chinese, I'd name my units related to the Dragon such as "Claw of the Dragon" "Spear of the Dragon" etc

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Yes you can name all units on C3C in that way - this has saved our sanity in various Democracy Games.

Then.... First Democracy Game - Term III

"Move the Swordman west? Which Swordman? Oh... the one next to our capital? Which one? There's a stack of 10?!?! ARGH!"

Now... C3C Intersite Democracy Game

"Move Grog west? You got it."

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Sep 2001
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To continue the threadjack ...

Renaming units to designate assignments is really useful, even in SP!
Examples: "Interceptor" (fighter on air superiority, especially useful!), "Pisae-Farnsworth ferry" (transport linking Pisae & Farnsworth), "Scandi invasion force" (transport(s) assigned to invade Scandinavia).

After a unit has completed (or changed) its assignment, change its name back to standard (or new) role.

Unique naming of transport units (Transports, Helicopters) can be very useful when multiples are in the same tile and some have moved. Allows loading onto the unit you want. E.g., Transport C1, Helicopter A.

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I haven't been able to find 'ABC' button but I haven't tried shift-n yet, will try that when I have a chance.

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The only time I really remane normal units was with ships- I gave my cruisers and battleships the name of my cities, and gave transports random personal names, like the do with real ships. More modern vessels I just gave numbers.

Outside of ships I would not name most common units-too much.

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It has a sorta epic feel to the end of the game, when the TOW killing the last enemy unit is named "1'st Warrior"...

pvzh is offline pvzh
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Aug 2002
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Generally, it is not good idea to rename units in the Epic game, because the name you enter sticks and does not change through upgrades; thus, when you right click on a stack you do not know is this "Grog" still warrior, swordsman, med. inf, or else...

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I meticulously name every unit at creation in all my games (except settlers and workers). It gives it more of a feel of creating history, and allows you to track the exploits of a particular unit. It also helps me keep track of what units are where.

pvzh, it only takes a glance to notice that the 12th Warriors are 3.2.1, and therefore swordsmen. With mass upgrades, it's really not even an issue.

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Feb 2001
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  Old Post 25-10-2004 13:03
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I haven't been able to find 'ABC' button but I haven't tried shift-n yet, will try that when I have a chance.


There is a preference or setting called "Show advanced unit options" or something like that. That button will only be there if you have this on.

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Generally, it is not good idea to rename units in the Epic game, because the name you enter sticks and does not change through upgrades; thus, when you right click on a stack you do not know is this "Grog" still warrior, swordsman, med. inf, or else...


You can always click on the unit and look at it when it activates.

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There is a preference or setting called "Show advanced unit options" or something like that. That button will only be there if you have this on.


Ah! That's why I don't see it. Thanks

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I always use military nicknames (like Rico's Roughnecks in Starship Troopers) that is appropriate to the unit and race. Once as Carthage I named an elite unit "Hannibal's Cannibals".


 
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