16-10-2004 07:12									#1
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The last couple of weeks I've been working on a scen I havn't named yet. Very soon to be released. This is the best name I have yet. Everyone is free to come with suggestions and comments in general.

It's a scenario from the 1500s and to the 18th century. Giga map. The goal is to colonise the world.

Can people help me come with sigs for the units without?

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Last edited by Eivind IV on 16-10-2004 at 16:17

	16-10-2004 12:14									#2
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This looks interesting, Eivind. Could you give us some more information on the game principles?

	16-10-2004 13:35									#3
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Very nice units!

Of course, that's no surprise when you look at the signatures on them

Please tell us more: which civs are in, which are playable?

	16-10-2004 15:10									#4
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Can't wait!

	16-10-2004 15:15									#5
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There are 5 playable civs. Portugese, Spanish, French, English and Dutch. The European civ and the Ottomans round up the last two. Heathens are barbarian. Since it begins somewere around 1500 and ends around 1700-1800 I had to pretend the Dutch revolution happened earlier than 1568 . The Spanish and the Portugese have the upper hand right off the bat, with naval techs that enables them to travel across oceans.

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	16-10-2004 15:27									#6
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yeah yeah wanna have it!

I love to colonize

	16-10-2004 16:08									#7
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It sounds a lot like Kobayashi's TRON...

	16-10-2004 16:11									#8
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Yes, it does, only it doesn't The only common thing this will have with TRON is the time period and the fact that it is world map. But TRON has been a great inspiration.

	16-10-2004 20:30									#9
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I'll be looking forward to this one.

We can never have too many colonization scenarios.

"Avast there, me mateys! It's golden pieces of eight, we be after. So look sharp, and trim the mainsail. Today, we fight!"

	16-10-2004 20:45									#10
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Let's see the map!

	17-10-2004 05:36									#11
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Very nice, indeed.
About the sigs, most ships are by BeBro (sig= BB) I think, quite positively, but deffinitely not the fourth. I am not certain about the third and the last one either, could be mods. The engineer & priest are Erwan's, the diplomat is an ebit by Arne. Some of the ships look like his (Arne's) too (nos 12 &15). Sadly, I don't think they used any sigs in the firstplace. Isn't that storm by Alex the magnificent?
Hope I helped, good luck.
Love the canibal too.
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Now I get it! You are that Vietnam guy...
Don't worry, it happens to everyone.
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No you are not. You are good old Eivind IV. Duh. Don't mix beer with burbon Timmy. Alphabetic order just won't do the trick.
My god, I must be getting old. That's alszheimer kicking in.
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	17-10-2004 06:00									#13
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Indeed it helped! Thanks!

The scenario is 90% done. Only unit placement and various minor tweaks left. Expect a beta within a couple of days.

Here's all I want to show for now. The Portugese map.

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	17-10-2004 06:26									#14
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I just had a look at the map. If it's the 16th century, why don't the Habsburgs have control of their German/Austrian possessions and the kingdom of Naples? If it is the 15th century, what are they doing in Flanders? I am just a grumbling history geek, I know, but what year is it, exactly?
The year of the frog, typical Chinese answer.
No wait, that's 3 centuries later, methinks.

	17-10-2004 07:12									#15
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There is no Habsburg civ. The grey cities you see are the European civ, consisting of the German principalities, Scandinavia, Venice, Poland, Russia, Teutons, Austria, Hungary etc. All European countries besides Portugal, Spain, France, England, the United Provinces and Ottoman Turkey. As there are only room for 7 civs, compromises like this has to be done

The exact starting year is not yet decided. I'm open for any kind of suggestions.

	17-10-2004 08:01									#16
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Then I would suggest the year 1516: On the death of Fernando of Aragon, the Spanish Crown goes to (Habsburg) Charles I of Spain and V of Germany, who unites under a single sceptre the Spanish kingdoms of Castile and Aragon, plus the Italian (Naples, Sicily, Sardinia) and European (Belgium/Holland, Austria- Southern Germany) dominions of the Habsburgs.
Ofcourse, the Dutch will have to fight for their independence. There lay the roots for the linguistic & religious divisions between the low countries. There is also the reformation & counter-reformation, the 30 years religious war in Germany...Till 1700: With the death of Charles II, the dynasty of the Habsburg comes to an end and the War of the Spanish Succession breaks out, Spain collapses and a French puppet is set on the Spanish throne in 1714, when Spain loses Belgium, Luxemburg, Milan, Naples, Sardinia, Minorca and Gibraltar. The Habsburgs retain control of Austria- Hungary however.
Russia establishes itself as a European power during this period, with Ivan the Terrible. The Russians run their own overland colonization of Siberia and Central Asia, which is equally important in terms of landmass, at least.

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These historical events sound a bit hard to simulate on a world map I'm afraid...I'll check out what can and what can not be represented in events for this...

I know John Ellis is working on a war of the Spanish Succession scenario.

	17-10-2004 14:02									#18
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But as Tanelorn says, if you start in the 16th Century the Habsburg empire included Spain, Austria-Hungary (and various middle European lands such as Bohemia), Naples and other Italian possessions, Burgundy etc. Having Spain on it's own in this era would be odd.

Also, looking at your map - shouldn't Columbus have discovered the West Indies by now?

	17-10-2004 16:10									#19
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Ok, I've been making some adjustments today, so that the scenario may infact begin in 1516, with Carlos I/Charles V as the king of the Habsburgs. Thanks, tanelorn!

Fairline: He sure should've The reason it was all black in the preview map was because I hadn't decided when to begin, before or after the rediscovery of America

Anyways, here's a ratfied Portugese map...

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	17-10-2004 19:05									#20
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Looks like a giga map.

	17-10-2004 20:12									#21
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And correct you are. You gave me your blessing a week ago or so to use that map, remember?

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Only making events left...

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	19-10-2004 05:31									#23
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It's La Coruņa, not La Coroņa...

Nice map, btw

	19-10-2004 05:38									#24
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Ok, thanks!

The map is Exile's.

	19-10-2004 06:33									#25
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I'm also including the cities and how you 'explored' the map for the Portugese....

	19-10-2004 21:48									#26
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If anyone would like to help me playtest this, just say so here and I'll send it by PM (or email if preferred) by the next day or so.

Last edited by Eivind IV on 20-10-2004 at 05:12

	19-10-2004 21:58									#27
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Let me know if I can make you any flags and or unit shields. This one looks great!!

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quote: Originally posted by Sarsstock Let me know if I can make you any flags and or unit shields. This one looks great!!

Thank you, but I already have flags and units shields. What I could need is a title.gif

	20-10-2004 02:30									#29
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here! its ciferalmasy_nospam@web.de

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It shall be sent, Cifer. I need only to sort some things out first. The more people sign up for playtest, the better

I need some help here as well.
1. I don't understand why the European civ here have walled cities when they in reality have no city walls. Well, some have, but not all of them as this sav shows.

2. I want every turn to be 6 months (two months a year). How do I do that? I don't seem to get it work. I had the turn increment on -6, evenso it had one turn as one month. I find that a bit weird as well. So teporary it is now increment 1, but that will go too fast. Please someone help me!

...as soon as possible

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