16-10-2004 12:14									#61
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc You people?

Yanks.

The media and the American people blew Vietnam, Somalia, Lebanon... and you seem to be well on the way to screwing up in Iraq, despite the sacrifices your soldiers have made.

Do I detect a pattern?

	16-10-2004 12:21									#62
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Nobody really understood Kosovo, and nobody really does to this day.

It was over very quickly without hardly any analysis of what actually was going on.

I STILL don't know enough about it to make judgement.

Somalia was a noble idea but poorly executed.

The American people brought the troops back home in Vietnam.

And Iraq will be fine, it just takes time. The inital occupation has been horrible but there will be a change of leadership shortly.

But take your ****ing "American people blew so and so" and shove it up your ass.

	16-10-2004 12:30									#63
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I understand the bombing of Serbia completely. There were Canucks, and Brits, and Frogs, and... bleeding on the ground. We got you guys to blow the hell out of the people who were creating the situation that was making our guys bleed.

You never heard a word of we should pull out, or we were wrong, or any other shade of defeatism.

Now your soldiers are committed and bleeding on the ground. I watch your media and I see a lot of defeatism. Don't blame me for what your media are doing.

You may wish all sorts of things for my ass, but it isn't my country that wants to be a global superpower that cuts and runs when power actually starts to cost something significant.

	16-10-2004 12:43									#64
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Watching that was like having a koala bear crapping a rainbow in my brain.

Jon Stewart

Bowtie Boy

The other guy

	16-10-2004 17:05									#65
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Wow. I've never really been af an of Jon Stewart, but after watching that...

	16-10-2004 19:50									#66
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TDS has been in reruns this week... I wonder if they will address this on Monday's show.

	16-10-2004 20:17									#67
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The whole thing has now been put on ifilm.com.

	16-10-2004 20:27									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Nobody really understood Kosovo, and nobody really does to this day.

I do.

	16-10-2004 21:45									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Nobody really understood Kosovo, and nobody really does to this day.

We decided to intervene without cause into a civil war and become the air force for a terrorist army.

quote: Somalia was a noble idea but poorly executed.

Somalia was a stupid idea poorly executed in another war where we had no real interest at stake. There's a reason why we left after so little cost.

	16-10-2004 21:49									#70
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Somolia was necessary so the U.S. could intervene in Bosnia, so the U.S. couldn't be blamed for only trying to save white people. It was also a poison pill for Clinton left by Bush.

	16-10-2004 21:52									#71
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John Stewart:
Tucker Carlson:

	16-10-2004 23:30									#72
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc We decided to intervene without cause into a civil war and become the air force for a terrorist army.

After years of Milosevic-backed Serb violence in the Balkans, which included ethnic cleansing, genocide and other crimes against humanity - you prevented his once again moving forces before they could commit atrocities on people they were already oppressing for decades. It was perhaps illegal (I don't know), but I think you (NATO) did the right thing.

	16-10-2004 23:31									#73
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I don't.

	16-10-2004 23:34									#74
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What would you have done?

	16-10-2004 23:36									#75
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Not intervene in an internal civil war where I had no real interest at stake.

	16-10-2004 23:42									#76
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When you are a player that big, everything you do, or fail to do, affects the outcome. It's just a matter of whose side you're on.

	17-10-2004 02:48									#77
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither I understand the bombing of Serbia completely. There were Canucks, and Brits, and Frogs, and... bleeding on the ground. We got you guys to blow the hell out of the people who were creating the situation that was making our guys bleed. You never heard a word of we should pull out, or we were wrong, or any other shade of defeatism. Now your soldiers are committed and bleeding on the ground. I watch your media and I see a lot of defeatism. Don't blame me for what your media are doing. You may wish all sorts of things for my ass, but it isn't my country that wants to be a global superpower that cuts and runs when power actually starts to cost something significant.

The people who are calling for a pullout are the ones who protested the war in the first place dumbass.

Now take your arrogant high horse somewhere else.

It's easy to be a hater WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN THE GAME.

	17-10-2004 02:50									#78
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Would you just CHILL!

	17-10-2004 02:51									#79
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Ban me if you want but I'm not gonna sit there and take that sh1t MIng.

	17-10-2004 03:08									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Ban me if you want but I'm not gonna sit there and take that sh1t MIng.

Fine... see ya in 48 hours.

	17-10-2004 03:33									#81
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I downloaded a video clip and watched it.

I was too distracted by the bowtie to get anything substantial out of it, though.

	17-10-2004 03:53									#82
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I'm too lazy to read the links. Was this on crossfire or the Daily show?

if so, anyone know when it is being repeated?

	17-10-2004 03:58									#83
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did any of yall catch Jon Stewart calling Tucker Carlson a dick? or when Tucker said he wouldn't want to eat dinner with jon and jon said i know. you won't.

wow... such hatred...

	17-10-2004 04:32									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Fine... see ya in 48 hours.

Boooo! 48 hour ban for what?

BTW, any alternative links for the videos? Those ones in the OP seem to be down...

	18-10-2004 07:46									#85
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publicity stunt?

Stewart's ratings are dropping. Check this out:

http://drudgereport.com/flash7.htm

here's some of the transcript:

CARLSON: You had John Kerry on your show and you sniff his throne and you're accusing us of partisan hackery?

STEWART: Absolutely.

CARLSON: ...you have this marvelous opportunity not to be the guy's butt boy, to go ahead and be his butt boy. Come on. It's embarrassing.

STEWART: I was absolutely his butt boy. I was so far -- you would not believe what he ate two weeks ago.

STEWART: You know, the interesting thing I have is, you have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.

CARLSON: You need to get a job at a journalism school, I think.

STEWART: You need to go to one.

The thing that I want to say is, when you have people on for just knee-jerk, reactionary talk...

CARLSON: Wait. I thought you were going to be funny. Come on. Be funny.

STEWART: No. No. I'm not going to be your monkey.

BEGALA: Go ahead. Go ahead.

STEWART: I watch your show every day. And it kills me.

CARLSON: I can tell you love it.

STEWART: It's so -- oh, it's so painful to watch...

CARLSON: Is this really Jon Stewart? What is this, anyway?

STEWART: Yes, it's someone who watches your show and cannot take it anymore. I just can't.

CARLSON: What's it like to have dinner with you? It must be excruciating. Do you like lecture people like this or do you come over to their house and sit and lecture them; they're not doing the right thing, that they're missing their opportunities, evading their responsibilities?

CARLSON: I wouldn't want to eat with you, man. That's horrible.

STEWART: I know. And you won't.

	18-10-2004 07:49									#86
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quote: publicity stunt? Stewart's ratings are dropping.

TDS just reached its alltime high in ratings. He doesn't need a publicity stunt.

	18-10-2004 07:51									#87
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I just bought his book, BTW.

	18-10-2004 08:03									#88
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Moving beyond DD's VERY VERY TIRED Kosovo hangup:
Why the hell did the producers of Crossfire hire Tucker? Could they not find a better commentator? or did the other candidates have too much self-respect?

	18-10-2004 08:06									#89
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Moving beyond DD's VERY VERY TIRED Kosovo hangup:

That was done serveral posts ago. Though I'm flattered you thought so much about it to continue to mention it.

	18-10-2004 08:14									#90
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Moving beyond DD's VERY VERY TIRED Kosovo hangup: Why the hell did the producers of Crossfire hire Tucker? Could they not find a better commentator? or did the other candidates have too much self-respect?

Which one is Tucker? The one with the bow tie? It's been a while since I have seen that show. I don't care for it.