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Right now we have soon to be 12 cites of size 3, and we are looking at expansion shortly. WHERE are we going to put those cities so we can pop boom?
I would make some of our crowded cities into 'support cities' and build any new cities with better spacing.
I estimate we have about 240 to 286 squares of land.
Of those we can see now, 28 squares are rocky and suited for crawlers. (prob a total of 35)
 Attachment: 2143 morgan terrain estimated w cities shrunk.png
This has been downloaded 63 time(s).
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I can see putting 1 city in the south, 2 in the SE peninsula, establishment of 4-5 cities in the NW, downsizing of 1 city and relocation of 3 others. Morgan Mussels could be moved W 1 tile, 2 tiles NW.
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Ok, I have a better idea. Our max number of cities we can popboom with is 3 times the b limit. With Demo & Knowledge we get 3 eff, and thus could go up to 30 cities. Now, that is 30 cities at ONCE. Namely we can build a bunch of shitty cities now, and still pop boom later by destroying the old small cities and replacing them with new ones that will be popboomed.
Thus let us ICS for now and then pop boom later. The trick will be to have lots of size 2 bases working forest. Size 2 bases will have an unhappy drone & really unhappy drone. The PTS & HGP will take care of 2 unhappiness and 2 psych makes everyone content. So, lets fill the continent with 27 cities and tons of forest. We still have to decide where the future popboom cities will go.
I want the first popboomed cities to be near the sea because we won't build cities there, we get gots of nuts and energy. We still need to decide where to put cities that we will decide to pop boom.
If we act fast we might be able to make a grab for the governorship.
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The hot pink squares are proposed eventual locations of large cities ~13 pop.
I figure we will build up to 27 (3rd B limit w/ demo) size 2 cities (2 people working in the forest each) in the near future. The PTS, HGP and 2 psych will take care of unhappiness.
Therefore, we do NOT need demo to control unhappiness of 27 size 2 cities. In fact if the energy loss isn't bad, we can go police state an support LOTS of units.
Attachment: 2143 morgan terrain estimated w big city placement.png
This has been downloaded 47 time(s).
Last edited by arginine on 23-10-2004 at 00:41
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I thought we want bigger bases because we had a fixed number of bases. They also make base facilities like tree farms & network nodes worthwhile.
I figure most of our units would stay within our territory namely FORMERS, garisons and reserve attack units. We'd have scout units patroling our perimeter, but we can set up "support cities" of size 1 for those units. I also hope we will be able to use another human faction to fight the Hive for us and channel money and units through them.
We would go Demo, PS or simple on the basis on the basis of energy loss and support alone. Whichever govt gives the best support and energy loss will be the one we should choose. Namely, UNHAPPINESS WILL BE UNEFFECT BY GOVT CHOICE.
(edited: that should include "for bases with 2 pop")
On the other hand, we could fill this continent up (ICS) and make sea bases with aquafarms to grow fast (4 turns / pop ).
Last edited by arginine on 08-11-2004 at 02:00
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Last edited by arginine on 01-12-2004 at 04:20
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In 2148 we have 210 charted land squares, about 30 of which are rocky. That gives us 180 squares. That assumes we use only land squares.
Basic facilities for tree farm city:
Tree Farm 12 rows
hab complex 8 rows
creche 5 rows
That does not factor in drone control. Could use rec commons (4 rows) and holo theatre (5 rows) and maybe 2 doctors while at 20% psych.
>34 rows or 306 mins or 612 EC.
With base size ~13 that is ~40 EC / square (the base square counts as a square)
ICS, many size 2 bases.
3 rows ~ 27 mins ~ 81 EC
about ~27 EC / square
That is assuming we stay demo & wealth. On the other hand, we could grow the bases with lots of psych and then go police state and green. (With AV & police state we get +3 police. That will let us use 3 police units to get 9 peaceful civilians).
Another option would be to stay out of demo to get the free min row that comes with a new base. We could have only a few size 3 cities (for unhappiness reasons).
It could be insane. Turn 1 - we have a CP. Turn 2, CP becomes a size 3 city and we spend 39 EC to rush it. It might become unhappy?, CP is built city goes to size 2 and the psych will kick in next turn? If we are REALLY agressive, the freshly built CP builds another base and we rush its CP.
Without demo, it would cost (18 - 5) MIN * 3 EC / MIN = 39 EC / base every turn on each new base. I assume we are using forest tiles for this calculation.
Last edited by arginine on 01-12-2004 at 19:03
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If you want something done, do it yourself. Here is a proposed borehole grid and a city placement for many size 2 ICS cities in the absence of a better one. To allow for bigger cities, get rid of some of the smaller cities. I assume each city will handle 2 forest squares. Some ICS cities will have a crawler for some nuts, and the people will work boreholes instead of forest. I also figure that the rocky squares will be mined and crawled.
http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=51573_boreholegrid.JPG
Of course adjusting terain heights will be a must to squeeze in all those boreholes.
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Reliance on pop booming would limit us to ~30 cities. We have 17? now. We can squeeze in a bit over 20 more cities. We could remove some of the cities if need be.
I would like to make energy rich sea bases to run our commerce through in the farther future (if pumped with nuts they can grow 1 pop in 2 turns).
With 10 free mins (without demo) and the 5 mins that arrive the next turn (with forest), I would prefer to think of it as a 12 min, or 36 EC investment.
I fixed the 307 mins in the post.
Last edited by arginine on 01-12-2004 at 19:21
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20-10-2004 21:47
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