25-10-2004 10:23									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Oncle Boris Anyway, I doubt that the aforementioned intimidation has been organized or permitted by Democratic officials.

Actually, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if DP officials were using whatever legal tricks they could to minimize GOP voters. Neither party has any respect for the voters themselves. They think they own the system, that they have more right to it than we do. Both parties disgust me deeply. I think voter intimidation should be illegal.

Another problem is using absentee ballots to engage in ballot stuffing. Over 700,000 absentee ballots were cast in Florida in the 2000 election. Of those, the Dems tried to challenge about 3,000, which were blatently illegal. The GOP attacked the Dems by saying they were trying to take away military personals' right to vote. So the Dem's backed off. Since the ballots weren't challenged, they counted.

Two things occured here. Illegal ballot stuffing and legal tricks. The GOP attacks were perfectly legal. Granted, there were for an illegal end, but they ere legal. The Democrats did not have to back down. They did so of their own accord.

If you're in a line full of obvious Kerry supportes trying to vote early and they ask you for whom you intend to vote, you can lie, and tell them Kerry, then vote for Bush, Badnarik, Nader, etc. You are not compelled to tell them the truth. Nor do they stop you from voting. As disgusting as it is, it involves a choice on your part.

	25-10-2004 10:24									#62
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BTW, there's a woman in Gainsville, FL whose name is Kerry Campaine.

	25-10-2004 10:25									#63
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quote: Finally! Thank you. This is something that is actually serious. I would point out, however, yet again, that ACORN is not part of the Democratic Party.

Yeah, ACORN is scum. They treat their workers like **** and are famous for pulling out all the stops from preventing their workers to unionize. Bunch of vile hypocrites, I definately wouldn't put voting fraud past them. But they are not the Democratic Party (thank god).

	25-10-2004 10:26									#64
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So, they support Bush or someone else other than Kerry?

	25-10-2004 10:28									#65
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NYE supporting the DP != the DP or its organizations.

The Ku Klux Klan supports the GOP. This does not mean that the actions of the KKK can be blamed on the GOP.

	25-10-2004 10:30									#66
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara NYE supporting the DP != the DP or its organizations. The Ku Klux Klan supports the GOP. This does not mean that the actions of the KKK can be blamed on the GOP.

Stop using intellectual arguments to defend the GOP!

	25-10-2004 10:31									#67
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I hate both wings of the Capitalist Party.

	25-10-2004 11:07									#69
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The GOP has a standard trick it pulls in Black districts, where it hires security guards and dresses them up to look similiar to cops, who then start hasseling people for ID, etc. Anyone who has had bad experiences with the law, or may be wanted by the law (they still have a right to vote), tend to leave without voting. It's dirty, but not illegal.

Source?

	25-10-2004 11:09									#70
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No, I'm going to bed, though I may have a cookie first. Maybe tomorrow.

	25-10-2004 11:12									#71
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I certainly called you on that one.

	25-10-2004 18:56									#72
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The Ku Klux Klan supports the GOP. This does not mean that the actions of the KKK can be blamed on the GOP.

The truth often hurts way too much for the Republican Party.

	25-10-2004 19:07									#73
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Last I saw this was an independent company and that company paid people based upon how many registration forms they bring back. Thus there is a built in incentive for these low paid people to pad thier pay checks by falsely filling out registration cards.

There is a MAJOR difference between independent contractors having a few bad apples in their employees and the Republican Party which directly employed people who throw away registration cards of voters who registered as Democrates. They're both crimes but it's like you (the party) personally commiting a crime vs someone you know commiting a crime. The closer the crime is to you then the worse it is.

	25-10-2004 19:34									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar :lol: I certainly called you on that one.

No you didn't. I was going to bed.

Get reading. (BTW, you could have done your own google search, lazy boy).
google search results

	25-10-2004 19:41									#75
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara BTW, there's a woman in Gainsville, FL whose name is Kerry Campaine.

Please tell me you're joking.

	25-10-2004 19:47									#76
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No, I read it in the paper on Saturday (The Volusia Post-Journal--I was at friends over the weekend). She said she's been having a fun year, as friends have been sending her stuff from all around the country. She said her favorite gift was a picture of Brad Pit wearing a shirt that read "I Kerry."

Speaking of funny names, did you know there's no beach in New Smyrna Beach? The hurricanes completely eroded the beach. Hell, whole sections of sea wall had been torn away and whole lots were missing. I saw houses hnaging over new escarpments. This was Saturday. I've never seen the ocean here so rough. I hear the beach in Daytona is also gone. It's gonna be a rough winter for ocean front property.

	25-10-2004 19:57									#77
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Not my links. I'll just save him the trouble... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/lo...=sfla-news-palm

Thanks, nye.

	25-10-2004 19:59									#78
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara No you didn't. I was going to bed. Get reading. (BTW, you could have done your own google search, lazy boy). [url=http://www.google.com/search?q=intimidation+black+voters&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial]google search results[/url]

Don't be lazy, Che. I did the work to make my point, you can do the work to make yours.

	25-10-2004 20:50									#79
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If Democrats are so squeeky clean why are they pushing in Ohio, Florida, and Michigan that voters be allowed to vote even in the wrong precinct as long as it's in their county? That means they can go vote multiple times. Somehow I don't believe it's to stop voter "disenfranchisement", their favorite word. Luckily Florida slapped that **** down, and the ruling by the Clinton judge in Ohio got overturned. I don't see Republicans pushing for the ability to vote multiple times. Also it looks like in Michigan an appeals court is going to possibly overturn the same thing.

And if this isn't cheating I don't know what is. read the last page about "pre-empting" http://www.gop.com/media/DNCGuide3.pdf


And here is a link detailing all the voter fraud by demoncrats
http://www.gop.com/media/voterfraudarticles.pdf

	25-10-2004 21:03									#80
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quote: Originally posted by MalevolentLight If Democrats are so squeeky clean

You just read want you want to read, don't you?

quote: why are they pushing in Ohio, Florida, and Michigan that voters be allowed to vote even in the wrong precinct as long as it's in their county?

Here in Florida they recently changed the location of my polling place. It used to be in a very easy to find location. Now it's in an out of the way hotel hidden behind a golf course. Fortunately, I made an effort to locate it so I'll be able to vote. It would have really sucked if I'd gone to the place I've gone to for every other election only to find out my vote doesn't count.

quote: That means they can go vote multiple times.

But it only counts once. After the election officials go through all the provisional votes, they'll see that people have voted multiple times, and the multiple votes will be discounted. In addition, that voter will likely be charged with a crime.

quote: Somehow I don't believe it's to stop voter "disenfranchisement", their favorite word.

You can't vote, so who really cares what you think?

Last minute changing of polling places is a typical dirty trick that can be pulled in order to reduce voter turnout. Say officials in Democratic Pinellas County decide that they want to reduce the number of Republicans able to vote. In typical GOP precincts, they simply move the polling stations around, and people show up to vote in the wrong place, their votes don't count. A few thousand confused Republicans and suddenly Florida goes to Kerry. But I guess you don't care about that.

	25-10-2004 21:16									#81
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It would have really sucked if I'd gone to the place I've gone to for every other election only to find out my vote doesn't count.

Then you'd have been a moron because they actually tell you where the correct polling place is for you.

	25-10-2004 21:23									#82
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Yeah, yeah.

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They even provide written directions or at least they did for me. Then again I don't look like a commie so that may have made the difference.

	25-10-2004 21:31									#84
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I only got an address. I live in a very confusing part of town, where we have five streets with extremely similar names: Baymeadows Rd, Old Baymeadows Rd. Baymeadows Way, Baymeadows Circle East, and Baymeadows Circle West. They all intersect, too.

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ML, what makes a good conservative in your eyes?

	25-10-2004 21:59									#86
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quote: But it only counts once. After the election officials go through all the provisional votes, they'll see that people have voted multiple times, and the multiple votes will be discounted. In addition, that voter will likely be charged with a crime.

Yes and we all know how democrats are so moral and honest that they never count votes twice. Give me a break. Democratic cheating has been so well documented I'm not sure how you can even make a case against it. They cheated in the last election and still lost.

quote: You can't vote, so who really cares what you think? Last minute changing of polling places is a typical dirty trick that can be pulled in order to reduce voter turnout. Say officials in Democratic Pinellas County decide that they want to reduce the number of Republicans able to vote. In typical GOP precincts, they simply move the polling stations around, and people show up to vote in the wrong place, their votes don't count. A few thousand confused Republicans and suddenly Florida goes to Kerry. But I guess you don't care about that.

Wrong *****. I already voted, in fact I voted a week ago. Guess who I voted for? Stupid commie. And you're wrong about Republicans, we don't get confused. I live in Pinellas county and you can bet we make damn sure to know exactly where our precincts are. You see we believe in this thing called responsibility for your actions. We don't contest the election and then say the ballot system was too complicated (amusing since the butterfly ballot was created by Demoncrats). Save the confusion for the elderly the Democrats march out and say were "disenfranchised and confused". Face it, you're going to lose and there's nothing you can do about it.

	25-10-2004 22:06									#87
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quote: I only got an address. I live in a very confusing part of town, where we have five streets with extremely similar names: Baymeadows Rd, Old Baymeadows Rd. Baymeadows Way, Baymeadows Circle East, and Baymeadows Circle West. They all intersect, too.

Funny, I used to live in Jacksonville when I went to UNF. I never had a problem figuring things out. In fact I had friends that lived in Baymeadows apartments.

	25-10-2004 22:10									#88
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good for the Dems

although I doubt the accuracy of the article in question... funny how ML didn't post a link. Are you embarassed because its probably from Newsmax, Foxnews, or Freerepublic?

	25-10-2004 22:14									#89
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Yes because CNN, ABC, and CBS are the true unbiased news sources. Shouldn't you be popping a few pills sava?

	25-10-2004 22:16									#90
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quote: Originally posted by MalevolentLight (amusing since the butterfly ballot was created by Demoncrats)

Who was an ex-Republican and has since quit the Democratic Party.