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Ned is offline Ned
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Due to Kerry's lawsuits opposing Nader, there have been an number of states that have had to revise ballots to remove Nader's name. This has caused absentee ballots to be mailed very late to our combat troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Since it takes four week to get there and four weeks to get back, as a practical matter, those troops will be disenfranchised unless deadlines to "receive" the ballots back are extended.

Where Democrats are in charge of the state, as in Pennsylvannia, Kerry has opposed moving the deadlines back and allowing our troops to vote. Twenty-six thousand Pennsylvannians serve in the military overseas. Those votes could be decisive in that state's election. But Kerry, as did Gore in Florida in 2000, stands squarely against our troops rights even where his own lawsuits caused the delays.

Does the word scumbag adequately describe the filth that is this empty suit?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...erseas.vote.ap/

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The military shouldn't vote.

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Pennsylvania officials said Tuesday that they would fight the lawsuit, arguing that they will help overseas voters by offering overnight deliveries of ballots or allowing them to fax their completed ballots.

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(a) There's no excuse for an 8 week round trip delay - that's just ****ed up election processes.

(b) If you hold the door open to late votes for several weeks, if those votes matter enough (i.e. a close election) you effectively disenfranchise the entire electorate by delaying certification of the election results.

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The deadline is tomorrow. Two our our military in Iraq have filed a motion (through their lawyers) for an extention of the deadline because they haven't even received their absentee ballots yet.

Kerry continues to oppose the right of these soldiers to vote.

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If the military manages to get an extention, is that not effectively a military coup?

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If the military manages to get an extention, is that not effectively a military coup?


Denying our military in Iraq and Afghanistan the right to vote under circumstances where those votes could be decisive is an anti-military coup.

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Isn't it interesting that the guy who claims Iraq is a total **** up and that we have needlessly put our troops in harms way is trying to block their votes. I guess they don't feel the same way Kerry does.

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It is well known that Blacks are with Bush on the social issues from gay marriage to abortion. So how does Kerry hand this to prevent defection of votes? Well here is a bit from Ann Coulter's latest column: He panders to them and insults their intelligence as no other politician ever has.

"Bush opposes gay marriage. Kerry is for it – and he has always been consistent on that by taking every position imaginable on gay marriage. Kerry's got more gay marriage positions than the Kama-sutra, including the "yawning dog," the "courtesan's dilemma" and the "flip-flopping weasel."

Campaigning in Missouri about a month ago, Kerry began the day saying he was opposed to Missouri's constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman. By the end of the day, Kerry was claiming he supported the amendment and, indeed, that his position on gay marriage was identical to Bush's.

Later, Kerry retracted his support for the Missouri marriage amendment, telling a gay magazine that he hadn't read the amendment and, in fact, he opposed it. (More campaign slogan ideas: "John Kerry won't just take a stand on the tough issues – he'll take two or three of them!")

When Kerry's strategy of being both for gay marriage and against it failed to fool blacks, he sent Jesse Jackson out to black churches to tell the parishioners to set aside their views on gay marriage and vote for Kerry anyway. What are blacks getting out of this deal again?"

http://www.anncoulter.org/

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Does Ann have any cites for this? Needless to say, I trust Ann Coulter as far as I could throw Michael Moore .

And I think the black voter cares more for affirmative action and civil rights issues than gay marriage and abortion, but maybe that's just me .

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Not very many people take Annie seriously.

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And I think the black voter cares more for affirmative action and civil rights issues than gay marriage and abortion, but maybe that's just me .
Well those issues have doubled Bush's support among Blacks.

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In the spirit of keeping the number of political threads to a reasonable number, I see no reason why Ned needed two seperate threads to bash Kerry... so I combined them. Have fun

So if some of the posts don't seem to follow each other... they didn't... but they will after this

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If the Republican party really was the party that addresses the concerns of black voters, they would not need to resort to intimidation to prevent them from voting (presumably for Kerry).

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OOOOOOH ANN COULTER!!!

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And I think the black voter cares more for affirmative action and civil rights issues than gay marriage and abortion, but maybe that's just me.


Which is exactly why you're losing blacks to the Republican party. Not everyone wants to be given racial preference, especially when that preference basically states that blacks can't make the grade and should therefore be given a lower standard. Racism, making a stronger Democratic party.

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It is well known that Blacks are with Bush on the social issues from gay marriage to abortion.




Bush got tha ghetto vote on lock!

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Sava is the poster child of the Democratic party. Weak, emotionally unstable, and blaming society for his failure in life.

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Isn't it interesting that the guy who claims Iraq is a total **** up and that we have needlessly put our troops in harms way is trying to block their votes. I guess they don't feel the same way Kerry does.



It's also interesting how Bush claims to be a full supporter of the American soldiers he sent to Iraq, while making a public joke one time at an event, about not finding WMDs and also while cutting their combat pay.

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Which is exactly why you're losing blacks to the Republican party. Not everyone wants to be given racial preference, especially when that preference basically states that blacks can't make the grade and should therefore be given a lower standard. Racism, making a stronger Democratic party.


All affirmative action does is recognize the 500 or so years that blacks have been officially treated as 5th class citizens. Its called a head start in light of a monumental historical **** up. Sure its not fair, but neither was slavery, asshat

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It's also interesting how Bush claims to be a full supporter of the American soldiers he sent to Iraq, while making a public joke one time at an event, about not finding WMDs and also while cutting their combat pay.


Bush has been kinder to the military than any president since Reagan. It's why 2/3 of the military and their families support him. It's why you couldn't find someone in the military that liked Clinton. You aren't going to win an argument saying that the troops support Kerry over Bush.

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Sava is the poster child of the Democratic party. Weak, emotionally unstable, and blaming society for his failure in life.


Come on ML... let's not get personal. I'm sure you have more than enough anti Kerry rants, so there is no need to pick on the members

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oh I found this hilarious....

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Sorry, but I am seeing a trend with people like Kidilicious and Sava. They are social miscreants that can't make it in life. It disgusts me that these kinds of people are the ones that make up the Democratic support group.

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edited because ming is here



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Sava brings it on himself Ming or didn't you notice the attachment he posted.

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Sorry, but I am seeing a trend with people like Kidilicious and Sava. They are social miscreants that can't make it in life. It disgusts me that these kinds of people are the ones that make up the Democratic support group.



How do you know they are not making it in life? Do you personally know them? How much of their personal life do you know?

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Sigh... attack the CANDIDATES... NOT the POSTERS

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Sava brings it on himself Ming or didn't you notice the attachment he posted.
I guess Malevolent feels the need to stick up for Ann Coulter.

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All affirmative action does is recognize the 500 or so years that blacks have been officially treated as 5th class citizens. Its called a head start in light of a monumental historical **** up. Sure its not fair, but neither was slavery, asshat


Then maybe you should take it up with the African Kings who sold them to us in the first place. Slavery is Africa's number 1 money maker even today. But all that aside, you aren't doing blacks a favor by saying they should be held to a lower standard. All that does is perpetuate the education gap. Affirmative action by definition is racism. Racism never helps anyone, even when it's done to try and help a particular race (it was actually created just to get votes for the Democratic party). There are plenty of educated blacks out there who made it without affirmative action, Rice being one of them.

 
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