29-10-2004 18:38									#1
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Request an immediate Declaration of War on CDG by the nation of Apolyton

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Do we march this turn and join in the war with PAL as our allies now, doing our best to hold off on starting the GA until we are no longer in anarchy, or do we wait and let PAL get all the glory and potentials for generating Great Leaders.

	29-10-2004 19:32									#2
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Lets loose the dogs of war, before CDG gets masonry from the other continent or worse yet finishes the galley they were talking about building and leaving with a settler and a spearman.

We just need to do what we can to delay the GA, from a quick look at the picks from the last save we are three turns from deploying the bulk of our forces anyway.

	29-10-2004 19:59									#3
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Pink tutus for all! Attack mercilessly.

	29-10-2004 21:57									#4
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I think that deception, even now, would not be in our interest for the next game.

KILL KILL KILL

	29-10-2004 23:36									#5
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leave their cities in ruins

	30-10-2004 01:00									#6
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We don't have the northern road to CDG ready and all of our northern stack units (and some of our southern stack units) are in Hypnos, because the attack was supposed to be 4 turns from now.

We have two workers currently building the northern road which should be ready in 2 turns.

An attack now would allow us to hit with our southern stack, but not our northern one, and would give CDG time to prepare defenses in Minnesota.

We may want to proposition CDG now and humbly ask them to simply surrender their cities to us and join us.

--Togas

	30-10-2004 01:32									#7
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Suggestion:

Inform PAL that we will spend this turn moving into position and moving workers out of harm's way. We were not ready to go to war, PAL jumped the gun, and they have to give us a turn to assemble.

Inform CDG that we have created polls and discussion threads about what to do and we will let them know next turn what our answer is.

Next turn the northern attack road will finish construction. We advance into CDG territory with both stacks and declare war.

--Togas

	30-10-2004 01:46									#8
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Sounds good Togas. What do you think about trying to get the contact that CDG may have to one or both of the other teams before we declare war on them?

	30-10-2004 03:40									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Togas Next turn the northern attack road will finish construction. We advance into CDG territory with both stacks and declare war. --Togas

No it will NOT. We are in Anarchy now, and viewing the save shows that this road will not be finished for THREE turns more. I wouldn't bother. The stack in Naked can be at CDG's gates this turn, but the one in Hypnos cannot reach Minnesota until 2 turns from now. We must either declare now and have our troops ready to attack Shaharazade next turn, which means withdrawing those workers. The Hypnos troops will arrive just outside CDG's borders next turn, will be next to Minnesota the turn after, and able to attack only the turn after that.

I think sending the surrender message is a terrific thing to do.

	30-10-2004 04:19									#10
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I concur with Togas' original statement. A surrender letter.

	30-10-2004 04:48									#11
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When are we going to tell PAL about the surrender letter?????

And we should try and get it to them before they play.

Im going to pop into chat soon and see if I can find some consuls.

	30-10-2004 05:34									#12
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Send the surrender letter NOW.

Start marching NOW.

	30-10-2004 10:14									#13
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Save is played. A letter will be sent to CDG asking for their unconditional surrender. At the same time we cannot ignore the possibility they will want to go out with a bang, so we are ready to attack Shaharazade next turn, and will shortly have the second stack in position. The exact placement of stack 2 needs to be discussed starting NOW.

Additionally, having a stack next to a CDG city shows the sort of force they are up against, and may help a capitulation decision.

We have not yet declared war on them. That will be next turn if they do not surrender.