31-10-2004 16:05									#1
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Ok lets have a look over the various civilizations for this scenario

the vote at this time is for this scenario



sorry - no in this one

basically the banana civilization has not risen to the occasion
even if they got a lot of votes

ok, I have posted information on each of the unique units for the civs

originally I was also adding the various troop numbers on each civ, but it was pointed out to me that this should be left out

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	31-10-2004 16:18									#2
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We would start with these units:

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	31-10-2004 16:21									#3
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I suggest we play either Persia or Rome.

Persia for an early challenge, starting with a loosing war agains Macedonians. With prime real estate at home, it would be fun building the empire and then taking revenge.

Rome for total domination with the mighty Legions. Projecting general mayhem to the entire known world.

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	31-10-2004 16:25									#5
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We would start with:

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	31-10-2004 16:30									#7
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We would start with:

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	31-10-2004 16:36									#9
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We would start with:

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	31-10-2004 16:50									#11
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	31-10-2004 16:52									#12
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	31-10-2004 18:29									#15
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Carthage!

	31-10-2004 18:57									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Moonbars Carthage!

Moonbars, what are your thoughts on Carthage?

Have you played them before? or read much on them?

	31-10-2004 21:04									#17
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I vote Macedon. Rome is not a challenge comparitively -- just stay out of war with the greeks for a few decades, get your tech on, and force the carthaginians to fight the celts and the goths and whatnot -- and you're in. Macedon, on the other hand, is quite a challenge, with a not weak Persia on the east and the challenge of attacking Rome as early as possible while still keeping Persia at bay.

That, and the fact that Macedon still has plenty of opportunity to grow, and more combat than any other civ, leads to a fast and furious game ... with lots of choices to debate. You'd spend the entire first 30-60 years debating when to attack Rome; you'd spend the early decades discussing how to easiest put Persia out of the running for the long haul so you can quickly attack Rome; and lots of debate on where to grow north, which barbaric civs to war with and which have at peace.

My second choice would be Rome, and my third Persia; but Persia is not as ... interesting, and Rome as I said is somewhat boring. Carthage and Egypt are not as competitive and slower to advance, Carthage particularly has the problem that Rome attacks it first (and is always at war with it).

Barbaric civs like Celts or Goth sound vaguely interesting at first, but they're much smaller and less useful, and I don't think you could realistically win the game with one of them on any decently difficult level.

so ...

GO MACEDON!!!!!

	31-10-2004 21:05									#18
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(Caveat: I'm Macedon in the current Rise of Rome scenario, so i'm speaking from some experience here. Dang you Akulla!!!!!!!)

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	31-10-2004 21:21									#19
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While Persia might not be so interesting in MP, with Rome growing, it's a bit different in SP. You see, the AI doesn't know about Rome's potential, so the Greeks wage an all-out war exclusively against Persia. They can even manage to bring in Rome and/or Carthage, if you're not careful. And Immortals really suck against those 3/3/1 Hoplites.

	31-10-2004 23:29									#20
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I say we play

(Who said there was no option? )

	01-11-2004 00:11									#21
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Carthage seems to be an interesting challenge. Always liked the story of Hannibal going with his elephants trough the Alpes.

	01-11-2004 01:43									#22
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Scythia!

For a big challenge, but winnable

1. REX to aquire the initally unoccuplied riverbeds in eastern and central Europe.

2. Conquer the Goths
3. Conquer the Celts
4. Conquer the Macedonians
5. Conquer the Persians
6. Conquer Egypt

Establish the PAX-Scythia!

	01-11-2004 03:45									#23
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quote: Originally posted by conmcb25 I say we play (Who said there was no option? )

ya big red lipped banana

well with you around there is always the exception

so yes we can play the banana

we will make you the minister of trade - a banana long appointment

so to you it then does not matter which civ we are

you can just lay back, peel a bit of skin and do up a bit of a sundae every now and then with ya trade deals

	01-11-2004 03:57									#24
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Egypt, in homage to the first Apolyton SPDG.

	01-11-2004 05:13									#25
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This is a difficult choice. Snoopy makes a good point about Macedon, jon an intersting idea to play the barbarians, and Oct's proposal does have nostalgia going for it.

BUT - this the Rise of Rome scenario. And Rome has lots of roleplay possibilities.

As the saying goes. "When in Rome ..."

Sincerely - Optimus Betamus, Senator and Roman.

	01-11-2004 08:41									#26
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I like rome, but as a lurker only for now.

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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot ya big red lipped banana well with you around there is always the exception so yes we can play the banana we will make you the minister of trade - a banana long appointment so to you it then does not matter which civ we are you can just lay back, peel a bit of skin and do up a bit of a sundae every now and then with ya trade deals

Like I said

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Carthage

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Rome

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