09-11-2004 03:34									#1
	Victoria Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

My brother has the game, but he's not really into it, and offered to give me the game.

Is there anyone here who plays the game, and can help me figure out the economics?

Would it be a worthwhile game to learn to play?

	09-11-2004 04:28									#2
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I don't think he wants to cheat.

	09-11-2004 04:46									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Some of it doesnt work, but...

So you can't even cheat properly?

	09-11-2004 06:35									#5
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Wrong forum. Visit the Paradox forums instead. But from what I read, Victoria isn't the best Paradox game.

	09-11-2004 10:13									#6
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Of course, if you get it for free, by all means feel free to fool around with it!

	09-11-2004 13:45									#7
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Thanks for the link Nostromo.

Rummaging around and I see plenty of stuff there.

As for CT's suggestions, I'd rather learn the game before I cheat.

	09-11-2004 13:59									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns So you can't even cheat properly?

Maybe he needs a cheat that gives him more information on the cheats.

	09-11-2004 15:57									#9
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I'd recommend Victoria for a strategy gamer. It gave me a lot of entertaining hours, although the patches make the game much harder as well as squashing bugs. Some may like that, some may think it goes too far.

My biggest criticism of the game is that you need to know what you are doing right at the scenario start. In your first year you have to set up your buy/sell orders right and know how all the factories interact so you can plan your industrial development strategy. You don't get the information on how to do that except by playing the game a lot or reading lots of the forum advice.

	09-11-2004 18:53									#10
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It's a good game, extrememly much MM though. I think it's far fro0m their best game, but it's good nevertheless. Check out the Paradox games forum here, but that one is nearly dead, I'd recommend you to visit the official forum instead. Lots of tips, helpful people, lots of mods, and most important: The latest patch. The thing with Paradox is that they continue to develop the game for months and years after it is released, fixing bugs and game balance(lots of that in the start), but around patch 1.03/1.04 it is mostly finsihed and VERY good generally.

	09-11-2004 22:15									#11
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quote: My biggest criticism of the game is that you need to know what you are doing right at the scenario start. In your first year you have to set up your buy/sell orders right and know how all the factories interact so you can plan your industrial development strategy. You don't get the information on how to do that except by playing the game a lot or reading lots of the forum advice.

Hence my concern with the economics portion.

	10-11-2004 01:30									#12
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I just got it recently, and have been having some problems with the learning curve.

	10-11-2004 02:24									#13
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I installed and removed it twice before I finally read just about the entire WickyViki through as I started to get really interested. Then the game started to work out, first game as Belgium, then as Sweden, Prussia, Russia... gradually going to bigger and bigger countries. Haven't tried UK yet, though. But it's a nice feeling when the economy starts to kick in and net a profit and you can start writing off loans (which you'll end up retaking anyway in a year or two when you discover a new railroad tech).