13-11-2004 04:34									#1
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I am having the won't start problem with this game (only other games who have it are starcraft and Rome:TW (that I have tried)). The problem probably relates to me using WinXP 64bit, but I am interested in a workarround if anyone knows any. As far as I can tell, I click on the thrones and patriots shortcut and nothing happens.

Jon Miller

	12-12-2004 06:18									#2
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Same thing here. I just spent $30 on this game today and it doesn't work. I installed everything fine, but when I click "play" nothing happens. I've tried to open it every other way, but nothing works. Please help before I break my computer with a hammer!!!

	12-12-2004 08:57									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Pissed Consumer Same thing here. I just spent $30 on this game today and it doesn't work. I installed everything fine, but when I click "play" nothing happens. I've tried to open it every other way, but nothing works. Please help before I break my computer with a hammer!!!

well then we wont be able to help, now will we?



Iam wondering if you have enough memory and also if you have enough HD to run it?

I also wonder what your graphics card is like?

I ask because these games are pretty intensive..

I have XP on my laptop, tried d/l the axis and allies demo on it and it acted like I threw a sack of taters on its back..got real sluggish and then froze up

I think perhaps it may have to do with memory..(RAM) and/or procesor speed..

Gramps

	12-12-2004 09:18									#4
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I have enough everything. I just downloaded the newest graphics card. I know I have enough MHZ and RAM, and I have enough space on my HD for it to work. I still don't know why it's not working.

	12-12-2004 09:24									#5
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ok..just trying to help..

In past when I installed on one ROM (having 2 presumably) and tried to put into another it would not launch

I am not positive but look into the default for rom "Letter" maybe that is a rabbit you could chase down..It has been issues with other games

Gramps

	12-12-2004 09:30									#6
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What do you mean "rom Letter?" I know the basics of computers, but I have no idea what you're talking about there

	12-12-2004 09:37									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Pissed Consumer What do you mean "rom Letter?" I know the basics of computers, but I have no idea what you're talking about there

forgive me

"A" is used for Floppy

"B" used to be a big old floppy square kind about 4" X 4 " (I forget been years!)

"C" Is HD (Hard Drive)

Then comes the rest if you have a partition for system back/restore it is usually "D" but not allways

The "ROM" or if you have a DVD/ROM or a Burner/ROM could be "Letter" D or "E" or what ever has been designated

If you have XP (I am assuming so)

#1-Click Start

#2-on right side about half way up you will see "MY COMPUTER" left click and you will see what I have in attached image

then this will tell you what the letter for your "ROM" is or where you put your disc into to play

Peace

Gramps

	12-12-2004 09:50									#8
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Yup. I've tried opening the game this way too, it's in the E drive. Nothing.

	12-12-2004 10:09									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Pissed Consumer Yup. I've tried opening the game this way too, it's in the E drive. Nothing.

ok..try this:


Direct X ..is it updated?

That is an issue many times





HERE IS ANOTHER..FROM THE READ ME OF R.O.N.:

H. CD-ROM Drive Troubleshooting

Rise of Nations uses SafeDisc encryption technology. Some CD-ROM drives may not be compatible with this technology, as follows:

· Acer CD-624a: If you experience problems with this drive when using real-mode drivers, install protected-mode drivers.

· Cybermedia 204: You may experience problems with this drive. There are no known solutions.

· Liteon 4265: You may experience problems with this drive. There are no known solutions.

· Memorex CD-RW2224: You may experience problems with this drive. There are no known solutions.

· Sanyo CRD-256P: If you experience problems with this drive, do not attempt to run Rise of Nations more than once before restarting your computer. Also, try ejecting and reinserting the CD-ROM.

· Sony CDU77E 2X: If you experience problems with this drive, make sure it is configured as a master, and then run the game again.

· Yamaha 2216E, 4416SX and CDR6416S: If you experience problems with these drives, contact Yamaha for a firmware upgrade. [http://www.yamahamultimedia.com/]


Does this help?

Gramps

	12-12-2004 10:12									#10
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also..check this out:

I. Audio Troubleshooting

Check with your sound board manufacturer for the latest DirectX-compatible drivers.

Following are the known audio issues and workarounds:

· Audio stops playing: If some parts of the in-game audio (including combat sounds) stop playing after the game has been running for a while, add the -sw3Dsound command-line option to the Rise of Nations shortcut. To do so, left-click the shortcut and click Properties, and then in the Target box type -sw3Dsound at the end of the existing text. Click Apply and OK.

· Audigy 2: Using an Audigy 2 sound board may interfere with SafeDisc, the encryption technology used to protect Rise of Nations. To resolve this issue, disable the Audigy 2 splash screen. Also, if you play a DVD, you must restart your computer before running Rise of Nations.

· Aureal Vortex: Rise of Nations audio may not function with Aureal sound cards. To resolve this issue, turn off the hardware acceleration. From the Start menu, point to Settings, and then choose Control Panel. Double click Sounds and Audio Devices and select the Audio tab. Click the Advanced button in the Sound Playback section and then click the Performance tab. Move the Hardware Acceleration slider to None and click Apply.

· SoundBlaster Live!: Using this sound card when running Rise of Nations on a Windows XP operating system may degrade game performance. To resolve this issue, turn off the hardware acceleration for this sound card. From the Start menu, point to Settings, and then choose Control Panel. Double click Sounds and Audio Devices and select the Audio tab. Click the Advanced button in the Sound Playback section and then click the Performance tab. Move the Hardware Acceleration slider to None and click Apply.

· SoundBlaster Live! Wave: Sound will only come from one speaker when using the 5.1.2535.0 driver. To resolve this issue download and install the latest drivers from http://www.soundblaster.com.

· Onboard sound: Some audio hardware included on motherboards is not currently supported.

· DirectX: If you experience audio problems using DirectX, connect to the DirectX Web site for the latest troubleshooting information, as explained in the “DirectX Troubleshooting” section preceding.

	12-12-2004 19:58									#11
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I don't have any of those soundcards, or any of those CD Drives. I'm just going to return the game. It's not worth all this.

	12-12-2004 21:04									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Pissed Consumer I don't have any of those soundcards, or any of those CD Drives. I'm just going to return the game. It's not worth all this.

well its a good game and it may be an obvious oversight...hang in there for a little bit..

BUT u may be better off because the game may try you even harder once inside..

	13-12-2004 12:45									#13
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I have a x800 pro

an athlon64 3500

a raptor 36GB harddrive

1 GB of RAM

Windows XP 64bit

It is not the best system arround, but it is pretty kickass.

sorry I didn't reply earlier, I didn't see any posts here for the longest time

Jon Miller
My ASUS board has unboard sound which I use

	14-12-2004 06:49									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I have a x800 pro an athlon64 3500 a raptor 36GB harddrive 1 GB of RAM Windows XP 64bit It is not the best system arround, but it is pretty kickass. sorry I didn't reply earlier, I didn't see any posts here for the longest time Jon Miller My ASUS board has unboard sound which I use

Ok Mr Miller..do you have a response about his issue?

This was the reason for the thread..not boast of your pc prowess..

	14-12-2004 12:12									#15
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I am the (a) one having the issue

(if you read the first post...)

Jon Miller

	15-12-2004 05:53									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I am the (a) one having the issue (if you read the first post...) Jon Miller

Thats what happens Jon Miller..when your posting about 40 posts a day and then comment on something like this..

my baaaadddd....

Gramps

	04-01-2005 05:35									#17
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anyone can help me?

JM

	04-01-2005 06:12									#18
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I had this happen once this weekend on an older machine I am also running..two things:

The first not enough memory to run it

second..I had to hit escape on keyboard and then turn off numbers lock..go figure??

This cleared up my issue..

Hope this longshot helps

GT

	08-01-2005 06:59									#19
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I have 1 GB of memory, so that should be a problem (it is a new machine)

And I just click on it, and I get a error report thing saying that there was a problem, there is never any time for me to press any buttons.

Jon Miller

	08-01-2005 09:53									#20
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this is very odd

i would only suggest reinstalling after cleaning cd real good

if not maybe a bad cd

thats about all i could suggest

sorry

gt

	08-01-2005 12:35									#21
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well, it does install

so I don't think it is a cirrupted program

Jon Miller

	08-01-2005 23:27									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller well, it does install so I don't think it is a cirrupted program Jon Miller

Jon..perhaps..and again fishing here..its something to do with the splash screen not loading properly

I have been told the splash screen is what appears on your desktop..not sure though

	09-01-2005 20:54									#23
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hmm

I have discovered that Rise of Nations works fine

it is Thrones and Patriots that won't work

The error is before it checks for the CD

how do you stop it from trying to load the splash screen?

Jon Miller

	09-01-2005 20:55									#24
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Some other ideas:

I assume you have downloaded the latest version of DirectX from Microsoft and have the latest drivers for your video card and sound system.

I've heard that SP2 (Microsoft XP service pack 2) can keep some games from running properly. If it is installed, you might try disabling it's firewall, since this "feature" can interfere with games.

You may have something else running on your system, too, such as anti-virus software that interferes with the game. A way to test this is to boot into safe mode and try running the game.

Another common problem with the Thrones and Patriots expansion is "gathering exception errors". When I downloaded the latest patch using the game's update option, this problem was resolved for me. By the way, I never had this problem with the original RoN, so this may be what is happening to you. This is easiest to check first and the most likely cause of your problem. Just insert your CD and click on update instead of play. Then try to play the game.

Finally, it may just be an issue with XP 64 bit, which is new and possibly incompatible with many games designed on XP 32. If this is the case you could create another partition on your drive and install XP32 and the game there. Whether you want to create a dual boot system depends on how badly you want to play the game.

One question? Which Asus board are you using?

Last edited by solo on 09-01-2005 at 21:29

	09-01-2005 21:07									#25
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together our community will continue to try to get to the bottom of this

GT

	09-01-2005 22:05									#26
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By the way, if you are using XP 64 bit to improve gaming, this might be a premature move. Check out this article that compares 32 bit to 64 bit XP performance:

http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=1961

	09-01-2005 22:11									#27
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this is a cd upgrade version versus 32 in place version?

my unit seems to be running smoother

kinda reminds me of when i was a law dawg

picking out 8 of 10 speeders and their speed by visual

after they get so fast it sometimes blurs together

I am however fine with my unit

GT

	09-01-2005 22:54									#28
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An upgrade, and the article is a bit dated.

My new Athlon 64 zips right along under 32 bit XP.

When XP 64 bit drivers and other software catch up, I'm sure it will feel like getting a new CPU upgrade.

	09-01-2005 23:28									#29
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quote: Originally posted by solo An upgrade, and the article is a bit dated. My new Athlon 64 zips right along under 32 bit XP. When XP 64 bit drivers and other software catch up, I'm sure it will feel like getting a new CPU upgrade.

indeed we will then be in the drivers seat

GT