17-11-2004 22:15									#31
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Thanks guy. Updated.

So far we have:
Chrisius Maximus (GMT)
Grandpa Troll (GMT-4) no prefrence
Beta (GMT-5) Egypt
Smellymummy (GMT –7) Random
1889 (GMT-7)
Earthworm (GMT -8) Carthage
Ljube-ljcvetko (GMT +1)
Modo (GMT +1) Babylon

4 votes for large map (1889, Smelly, Worm, LL)

4 votes for Random Barbs (1889, Smelly, Worm, LL)

3 votes for Monarch (1889, Worm)
1 vote for Diety (LL)

2 votes for random land mass, water, climate, temperature, age. (1889, Worm)
2 Vote for archi, 60% water (Smelly, LL)
1 vote for normal/temperate/4 bil (Smelly)
1 vote for wet/warm/5 bil (LL)

Cultural linked start location
1 vote on (LL)
1 vote off (1889)

Scientific leaders
2 votes on (LL, 1889)

Victory conditions
Diplomatic (LL, 1889, Beta, Smelly)
Cultural (LL, 1889, Beta, Smelly)
Domination (LL, 1889)
Conquest (LL, Beta, 1889)
Space (LL, Beta, 1889, Smelly)

Last edited by 1889 on 17-11-2004 at 23:24

	17-11-2004 23:00									#32
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OK, My vote is normal map, but large is also ok.
Barbs random, though I prefer no barbs, but it's a small issue.
Level: Deity or Sid, no AI (tech advances should be slower - experience from other diplo games). Or monarch, but research like the level is deity.
Archi, 60% water, wet, warm, 5 billion years.

I'll think about civ later. Start locations culturally linked.
Scientific leaders on (for the sake of the stories).
Victory conditions: Diplomatic, Cultural, Domination, Conquest, Spaceship.

	17-11-2004 23:12									#33
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quote: Originally posted by 1889 Thanks guy. Updated. So far we have: Chrisius Maximus (GMT) Grandpa Troll (GMT-4) no prefrence Beta (GMT-5) Egypt Smellymummy (GMT –7) Random 1889 (GMT-7) Earthworm (GMT -8) Carthage Ljube-ljcvetko (GMT +1) Modo (GMT +1) Babylon 3 votes for large map (1889, Smelly, Worm) 3 votes for Random Barbs (1889, Smelly, Worm) 3 Votes for Monarch (1889, Worm) 2 votes for random land mass, water, climate, temperature, age. (1889, Worm) 1 Vote for archi, 60% water, medium wet/climate/age (Smelly)

Take all the places where you see 1889 and Worm, add Beta, and add one vote.

And all the standard victory conditions.

..... signed ... Pharoah Betakamen III.

	17-11-2004 23:13									#34
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Votes tallied LL. Smelly will only play a large map and nobody else seems to care much about. 8 players is more important to me than a standard map.

	17-11-2004 23:22									#35
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I want large map too so we should go with that I think, as this is suposed to be a game im setting up

thanks for updating though

So the players you have listed now are the 8 we go with, so no need to wait, has everybody chosen civs ?

Ill go with Byzantines.

Monarch is fine.

Random Barbs is fine.

just map settings now as I would like the settings smelly has posted and I hinted at these yesterday, i think it would give us a map with plenty of land and naval choke points which would add much to diplomatic tension

so any one really opposed to this ??

On the Iron Civer rules i think those 1889 has posted are ok and essential really but as to the diplo faq do we say no to elimination ?? please post your thpughts on this so eitherr me or 1889 can sort out the game and get it rolling

	17-11-2004 23:26									#36
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we will use standard victory conditions as that seems to be th e most popular choice, so just a few people to decide their civs and iron out map settings and were away

	17-11-2004 23:32									#37
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Large map, please.

Naval chokepoints.

	18-11-2004 00:06									#38
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I am good with the Archi map, doesn't really matter to me i guess.

Onward we go.

And I am fine with elimination being acceptable, as long as there is a story behind it. (Although I will probably be the first to go, and then complain about it incesently.)

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	18-11-2004 00:09									#39
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I've played a few games on an archipelago with 60% water and it makes very cool maps.

I just feel like playing the Zulu's even though they don't have much relevance to this map.

I guess we just need word from LL then. I'm looking forward to the start.

	18-11-2004 04:46									#40
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Larger Map da better fer me..

me and me Kitty wanna play

Ok..off we go, eh?

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	18-11-2004 04:51									#41
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The key thing is to slow down research. This is paramount for a successful diplo game. If the research is fast, with intensive tech trading, we'll be in modern age very quickly. And the only viable victory will be the spaceship. I'd like to avoid that. Spaceship is by far the easiest way to win on any difficulty.

I don't know about the civ. Depends on the level. If monarch, then give me religious and militaristic civ.

	18-11-2004 05:07									#42
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Arabs for LL.

Gramps I was thinking of starting a special thread for all your spam.

	18-11-2004 05:32									#43
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quote: Originally posted by 1889 Arabs for LL. Gramps I was thinking of starting a special thread for all your spam.

well..it aint spam and if you dont like too bad

hows that?

or should I simply ask you prior to posting..
for the record you are very slow for a setup of a game..

so if that the case the thread you start wont be for several months

	18-11-2004 22:03									#44
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So far we have:
Chrisius Maximus (GMT) Byzantine
Grandpa Troll (GMT-4) Random
Beta (GMT-5) Egypt
Smellymummy (GMT –7) Random
1889 (GMT-7) Hittite
Earthworm (GMT -8) Carthage
Ljube-ljcvetko (GMT +1) India
Modo (GMT +1) Babylon

large map
archi, 60% water normal/temperate/4 bil
Random Barbs
Monarch

Cultural linked start location
1 vote on (LL)
1 vote off (1889)

Scientific leaders
2 votes on (LL, 1889)

Standard victory conditions (I forget exactly what is standard, but I think its cultural, diplomatic, space and conquest)

Gramps and Smelly are you sure you wouldn't rather choose a civ?

Last edited by 1889 on 19-11-2004 at 00:46

	18-11-2004 22:47									#45
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@1889 I got your PM thanks for updating this Ive managed to sort out the editor and Ive started a few random maps in hotseat this afternoon and Im getting pretty good consistent maps with plenty of naval and land choke points

Ive meddled with the optimal city number lowering it for large map, and civ spacing increased to spread us out as much as possible, which means you need to build those curraghs!!!

I put the tech rate up to 400 as it is for huge maps and set the minimum tech rate to 6 turns leaving the max at 50 turns. This is a shot in the dark and we will have to see if it really does slow tech down.

Ive also increased the occurance of iron and made it zero % dissapearence and slightly increased the appearance of horses. I feel these two resources are must haves so Im hoping the random map will give everyone access to reliable sources of these. Ive not meddled with other resources.

I can make changes to this if anyone wishes me too but hurry up and say so I want to start the game

can the following players send me an email so I can put their addys into my address book !!

Earthworm
1889
Modo
Ljube
Grandpa,

send to chrisbennett8 AT aol DOT com

I know some of you already send turns to me but I dont send turns to you so I have not saved your addresses ie Modo and Ljube

I think I have yours though Modo

	18-11-2004 23:00									#46
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The more i think about it the less excited I get about Zulu's. They're cool, but they really do suck. How about Hittites for me.

	18-11-2004 23:04									#47
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quote: Originally posted by ChrisiusMaximus I put the tech rate up to 400 as it is for huge maps and set the minimum tech rate to 6 turns leaving the max at 50 turns. This is a shot in the dark and we will have to see if it really does slow tech down.

It's not a bad shot. In general doubling the science rate makes for an extremely slow start and making it 1.5 times higher makes a slow-ish game in the beginning. Without AI to cheat us out of it and with the smaller optimal city number, this slowdown should work for a large part of the game.

One note, however. The slower the science, the more powerful the Expansionistic trait gets.

quote: Originally posted by ChrisiusMaximus I think I have yours though Modo

"Diplomacy in another age" - I keep sending turns to you (when Paddy is around to play his ).

	19-11-2004 00:11									#48
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Ive found Earthworms addy on the first page and I have Modo's and ljubes, 1889 got yours thanks

Grandpa its just yours I need now

and smelly and Grandpa last chance to choose a civ, 1889 Hittites no problem

	19-11-2004 00:13									#49
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just start the game already

	19-11-2004 00:16									#50
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OK but food first does anyone know the Granpa's addy ?

	19-11-2004 00:41									#51
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I'd like India, not Arabia please.

Email: ljcvetko at eunet dot yu

	19-11-2004 00:43									#52
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i sent you a pm with GPT's email address chrisius

	19-11-2004 02:25									#53
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Great stuff thanks smelly

Ill set the game up and email you all with the thread details etc

Ill do this during this evening at some point

	19-11-2004 02:35									#54
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BCRONKITE-the necessary sign-ec-dot-rr-com

Looking forward..

was this ok 1889?

Just dun wanna p!$$off anyone..

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	19-11-2004 03:01									#55
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Approved Gramps

I was only joking though. I would have thought that someone who posts pictures of giant kittens would not have taken it so seriously.

	19-11-2004 03:24									#56
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quote: Originally posted by 1889 Approved Gramps I was only joking though. I would have thought that someone who posts pictures of giant kittens would not have taken it so seriously.

ok..see..I have been locked up in a cubicle..with this tiny hole to look through and never do see faces..only objects that appear larger than they are with movies playing in background..

oh..um..sorry wrong forum..


I'm kewl..

just tired sometimes..

	19-11-2004 03:58									#57
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The game has begun the new thread Brave New World is here

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...144#post3443644