18-11-2004 21:14									#31
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What was the point of quoting your statement IMMEDIATELY after the original post, LOTM??

	18-11-2004 21:15									#32
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Mistake, I imagine. Or an odd attempt at emulating you.

-Arrian

	18-11-2004 21:19									#33
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Political cartoons aren't necessarily supposed to be funny, except Doonesbury. They are supposed to illuminate the truth in a satirical manner. Satire is usually a bit vicious. That's the way we like it.

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	18-11-2004 21:22									#34
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Correct me if I'm wrong.... Condi IS NOT yet a mother..

Perhaps the point being she knows little of either?

I'm with VJ - the biggest offense was being not funny.

	18-11-2004 21:25									#35
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Puppets are always funny.

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	18-11-2004 21:29									#36
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This one is hilarious.

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	18-11-2004 21:35									#37
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quote: Originally posted by MosesPresley Puppets are always funny.

I absolutely love this one!

	18-11-2004 21:49									#38
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quote: Originally posted by MosesPresley This one is hilarious.

Look on the bright side: maybe she's just being moved away from Foreign Affairs.

	18-11-2004 21:52									#39
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MosesPresley

the cartoon you posted actually had some good points!

	18-11-2004 21:54									#40
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This thread is so absurd. Political cartoons are about satire, and satire uses culturalreferences- like LoTM said, the Danzinger cartoon references Gone in the Wind (personally I also thought of the Color Purple for some reason).

Oh, lordy lord! How can anyone who listens to Limbaugh ever say anything about offensive media? Hyprocasy par excellance.

	18-11-2004 21:54									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber Not gonna register at Rush's site just to see a cartoon.

'specially since you have to pay...

	18-11-2004 21:56									#42
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See, liberals are happy about a black woman rising to one of the highest ranks in the land.

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	18-11-2004 21:57									#43
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat I would think that Liberals should applaud the fact that an African-American woman acheived a great education and has risen to the top to become Secretary of State. Instead, we get cartoons from prominent left cartoonists depicting her as ignorant, a puppet of Bush, and good for nothing but staying home and having babies.

Some of us value competence over race. I'm all for competent minorities being put into positions of power, but I'll be darned if I am supposed to applaud someone incompetent.

-Drachasor

	18-11-2004 21:57									#44
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rofl@cartoon...

damn you drach and your damn xpost!

	18-11-2004 22:00									#45
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those cartoons are only offensive to a conservative.

Stop reading those conservative websites. They are brainwashing you.

Think for yourself man. I don't read any conservative or liberal websites (unless you count Apolyton as liberal )

	18-11-2004 22:03									#46
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If I saw those cartoons in a British newspaper, I'd wonder why they were being so restrained.

	18-11-2004 22:13									#47
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The doonesbury cartoon, using the term "brown sugar" (which means a negro prostitute) is racist.

	18-11-2004 22:15									#48
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat here's the danziger:

That is offensive to 50%+ of the population. Of course, it's on Rush Limbaugh's site, which is also offensive to 50%+ of the population.

	18-11-2004 22:16									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel POLITICAL CARTOON SHOWS POLITICIAN IN BAD LIGHT NEWS AT 10.

	18-11-2004 22:18									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola The doonesbury cartoon, using the term "brown sugar" (which means a negro prostitute) is racist.

Ahh, no, since he is saying Bush would use that term-that is calling Bush racist.

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quote: Originally posted by GePap Ahh, no, since he is saying Bush would use that term-that is calling Bush racist.

yeah but Bush never used that term (that we know of), he is putting words in Bush's mouth. Thusly, we conclude the author is using racially insensitive remarks.

	18-11-2004 22:27									#52
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No, the writer is just mistaking nepotism for tokenism. That's to say, the writer assumes that Dear Leader appointed someone as inept as Rice because she's a minority, rather than because he rewards loyalty over competence.

	18-11-2004 22:30									#53
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quote: Originally posted by GePap This thread is so absurd. Political cartoons are about satire, and satire uses culturalreferences- like LoTM said, the Danzinger cartoon references Gone in the Wind (personally I also thought of the Color Purple for some reason). .

You missed my point then, I found putting Condi in the role of a black servant from Gone with the Wind to be offensive. Imagine the reaction if Powell had been treated that way in an anti-Powell right wing cartoon, or if Kofi Annan had been treated that way.

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Powell has been treated like that in plenty of political cartoons.

I am sure the robber barrons hated being depicted badly in political cartoons- and you know what? Who gives a ****?

Its political cartooning- people who offend easily about trivial things will always get "offended". If only they became trully offended at the things that matter the world would be better off.

	18-11-2004 23:14									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Drachasor Some of us value competence over race. I'm all for competent minorities being put into positions of power, but I'll be darned if I am supposed to applaud someone incompetent. -Drachasor

Are you saying that Condi Rice is incompetent???

Do I have to remind you of her credentials?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/ricebio.html

	18-11-2004 23:16									#56
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Wow, now if she ran a university, or maybe a cultural instutition I might give a damn- she needs to be a public diplomat in her new role.

	18-11-2004 23:21									#57
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat Are you saying that Condi Rice is incompetent??? Do I have to remind you of her credentials? http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/ricebio.html

Interesting how you only cite things she has done *before* being in office. I'd also note, like GePap touched on, that those activities do not necessarily correlate to the duties she has needed to perform for 4 years or now needs to perform.

Her record in office is awful, so yes, I think she is incompetent for her current position. She should go back to teaching.

On a closely related note, I don't care a whit how good someone's credentials are if they are currently being incompetent. If you can make them competent quickly, then they should be moved to some other position. Either temporarily if they can get their act together, or permanently if the job is too much for them.

-Drachasor

	18-11-2004 23:25									#58
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quote: The doonesbury cartoon, using the term "brown sugar" (which means a negro prostitute) is racist.

That's the point... Bush wouldn't realize the negative connotations of the nickname.

	18-11-2004 23:35									#59
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These next two posts go together.

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	18-11-2004 23:36									#60
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I didn't want to run this one out of context.

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