21-11-2004 08:52									#61
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Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it's wrong .

	21-11-2004 08:52									#62
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uh I play sports and basketball suuuuucks.

	21-11-2004 08:54									#63
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if it's wrong .

including YOU

	21-11-2004 09:03									#64
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Asher, if you actually played sports you would understand . Basketball is unquestionably the best sport to play, and IMO the best sport to watch also (though arguments can be made for baseball and football, certainly more people watch football). Hockey doesn't even count and soccer is boring as hell.

best to play, but I find football more fun to watch than basketball.

	21-11-2004 09:10									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll including YOU

You know, I was going to post something that would have said not to make some asinine statement like this, but I hoped that this kind of response would be just to obvious and lame for anyone to post. I guess I was wrong.

	21-11-2004 10:52									#66
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does anybody know where to get a video of the fight online? I tried espn, but all I got was a black screen.

	21-11-2004 11:02									#67
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I'd try and find one for you, but Websense here at work doesn't agree with normal web browsing

	21-11-2004 11:13									#68
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http://2k3.traidor.com/fark/pacers_pistons_brawl.zip

That's what I'm watching right now, and... wtf? The audience really is... giving all they have...

	21-11-2004 11:54									#69
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Well, it seems like Artest and Jackson are going to be charged with battery by the prosecutor as well the actual fans that threw the beer. Sounds fair. After all, Artest went after the wrong guy! When you are lying on the scorers table (which is such an idiotic thing to do) how can you tell who threw it at you?

Oh, and baseball and football are by far the best sports to watch . All of you who think otherwise are obviously wrong.

	21-11-2004 12:01									#70
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So far, David Stern has suspended Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson, Jermain O'Neal and Ben Wallace indefinitely.

Guess Artest has time to promote his album now.

Players Suspended

ACK!

	21-11-2004 14:40									#71
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I think they should be fined for what happened off court, once the fans came on the court after players (O'Neal) they have a right to defend themselves.

	21-11-2004 14:50									#72
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Don't call them thugs, that's an insult to thugs.


They're punks. All of them.

	21-11-2004 15:52									#73
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that fight was the most entertaining thing ever and has led to more.

the clemson fight of yesterday

ive been missing sports fights since hockey went down for the count

	21-11-2004 21:51									#74
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike You know, I was going to post something that would have said not to make some asinine statement like this, but I hoped that this kind of response would be just to obvious and lame for anyone to post. I guess I was wrong.

cheers

	22-11-2004 02:09									#75
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Well, Artest has TIME TO RECORD NOW along with the other pugilists

Next of course will be the NON-NBA reckoning, depending on the District Attorneys office

Gramps


P S Thank you David Stern and Company

	22-11-2004 04:48									#76
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That article is wrong, Artest is suspended for the season(73 games).

Stephen Jackson got 30 games.

Jermaine ONeal got 25 games.

Ben Wallace got 6 games.

ACK!

	22-11-2004 04:56									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski That article is wrong, Artest is suspended for the season(73 games). Stephen Jackson got 30 games. Jermaine ONeal got 25 games. Ben Wallace got 6 games. ACK!

whats your source?

just asking is all


Gramps

	22-11-2004 04:57									#78
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DAMN!

Talk about coming down hard.


edit - GT, it's on www.CNN.com, there's a link.

	22-11-2004 05:02									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll whats your source? just asking is all Gramps

NFL Today has interupted games twice today to mention it.

But here's a link:

Suspensions for Brawl

ACK!

	22-11-2004 05:04									#80
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Thanks..I got mine from CNN but the Sports Illustrated link when it appeared..

Thats why I link because sources often change..


Gramps

	22-11-2004 05:06									#81
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suspended for remainder of season

	22-11-2004 05:07									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski NFL Today has interupted games twice today to mention it. But here's a link: Suspensions for Brawl ACK!

thanks

i applaud this and hope the legal system come back as well
When I was in the Military in the 1970's we had what was referred to as "Double Jeopardy" both the civilian authorities as well as military authorities got a piece of yo @r$e..

	22-11-2004 05:44									#83
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David Stern got it right, bless his heart.

The only thing I would have added would have been clearing out the stands the next time the Pistons and Pacers play at the Palace.

Though I am wondering about the four one-game suspensions handed out... for what, exactly?

	22-11-2004 05:45									#84
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And, it should be noted:

All suspensions without pay.

That is a lot of money. I think the players' forfeited salaries should be donated to anti-violence charities in the Detroit and Indianapolis areas.

	22-11-2004 05:47									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer And, it should be noted: All suspensions without pay. That is a lot of money. I think the players' forfeited salaries should be donated to anti-violence charities in the Detroit and Indianapolis areas.

	22-11-2004 05:47									#86
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quote: Though I am wondering about the four one-game suspensions handed out... for what, exactly?

If any player comes off of the bench duing a fight, they are automatically suspended. I think this rule went into effect after that large Suns/Knicks brawl several years ago. I'm assuming that this is why the other players were suspended.

	22-11-2004 05:52									#87
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Yes, you are correct.

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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer And, it should be noted: All suspensions without pay. That is a lot of money. I think the players' forfeited salaries should be donated to anti-violence charities in the Detroit and Indianapolis areas.

Yes, but these players are all so rich it's not likely any of their quality of life will suffer significantly. Artest will get more time to work on his rap.

Think about this, if one of you were to assault a coworker, would you get suspended for a few months? How about if you were to assault a customer? You would be fired.

But because these jerks are athletes, they get treated to a special standard above the rest of us. In the end this doesn't mean that much. What we need to see here is prosecution of the athletes.

	22-11-2004 09:36									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Yes, but these players are all so rich it's not likely any of their quality of life will suffer significantly. Artest will get more time to work on his rap.

Well, if stereotypes hold true in these cases, which they may or may not, the guys suspended might not have a net in place. Especially in the case of Artest who is still quite young and has a number of years left in his career to build a retirement fund. Maybe he can borrow against his future earnings, I guess, but the mortage still has to get paid, eh?

And I imagine Artest's rap album is primarily self financed, as is his production career...

	22-11-2004 09:49									#90
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Artest is going to find it harder to promote his friend's rap album without his salary to put into it .