21-11-2004 07:42									#1
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For the first time ever, I have a machine able to run cutting edge PC games, but now there are none to be found! Can anyone suggest a non-FPS (some action is ok, just as long as it's not centered on it), non-multiplayer oriented game that will give my computer a work out? The only thing I have found is Rome: Total War.

Thanks.

	21-11-2004 07:46									#2
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This is kind of sad. I read your post up until "that will give my computer a work out" and thought: "Rome: Total War".

Oh well. How about Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War? That's really multiplayer oriented though, the SP campaign is quite short. Bleeding edge graphics and strategy are two things that don't mix often, which is generally a good thing, really.

	21-11-2004 08:30									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Kassiopeia . Bleeding edge graphics and strategy are two things that don't mix often, which is generally a good thing, really.

I didn't mean only stategy games, RPGs or Simulation are good as long as they are not just action.

	21-11-2004 09:03									#4
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Neverwinter Nights isn't leading edge, but it still has very good graphics.


I suppose you could also try Morrowind or Knights of the Old Republic.

	21-11-2004 09:08									#5
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everquest 2 will kick your machines' ass.

I can guarantee your computer can't run that game at the highest settings.

	21-11-2004 09:15									#6
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I have Morrowind, I thought Neverwinter Nights and Everquest are mostly mutiplayer? I will look into Knights of the Old Republic.

	21-11-2004 09:20									#7
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oh, I didn't see the non-multiplayer part

Neverwinter Nights has many, many modules for single player. It was originally designed to be multiplayer mostly. but single player works just as well for that game. All the original campaigns can be played in single player, as with most user created modules.

Knights has good graphics, but not as good as Morrowind.

	21-11-2004 09:43									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident oh, I didn't see the non-multiplayer part

I don't mind it having MP, if has good SP as well. Actually, I would love MP too if I didn't have a 30kbps modem

	21-11-2004 11:54									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident everquest 2 will kick your machines' ass. I can guarantee your computer can't run that game at the highest settings.

I guarantee you mine can

	21-11-2004 15:49									#10
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quote: Originally posted by quantum_mechani For the first time ever, I have a machine able to run cutting edge PC games, but now there are none to be found! Can anyone suggest a non-FPS (some action is ok, just as long as it's not centered on it), non-multiplayer oriented game that will give my computer a work out? The only thing I have found is Rome: Total War. Thanks.

If you don't play FPS then you probably shouldn't have bothered with the cutting edge machine.

KotOR is the only game I've seen posted here that kind of fits your requirements. I could run it with very high detail on my machine when the game came out though, and that's almost a year old now.

Still, you can have the satisfaction in any SP game like RTW of just turning up everything to max and still having perfect play.

	22-11-2004 04:58									#11
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike I guarantee you mine can

no it can't

This game is suppsedly designed for computer technology that isn't even out yet.

	22-11-2004 05:02									#12
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quote: This game is suppsedly designed for computer technology that isn't even out yet.

Whats the point in that?

	22-11-2004 05:14									#13
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It's a mmorpg. They expect people to be playing the game for years. And they want to keep the game engine on top of computer technology for the next few years.

	22-11-2004 05:18									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident no it can't This game is suppsedly designed for computer technology that isn't even out yet.

Then give details... examples. Tell me why I can run HL2 at a ridiculous framerate with everything maxed, but I can't run everything in this game.

	22-11-2004 05:25									#15
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quote: It's a mmorpg. They expect people to be playing the game for years. And they want to keep the game engine on top of computer technology for the next few years.

Who upgrades their PC to play an RPG? Thats just saaaaaad.

	22-11-2004 05:47									#16
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Then give details... examples. Tell me why I can run HL2 at a ridiculous framerate with everything maxed, but I can't run everything in this game.

see my above post.

edit: theremine, you quoted it . because the game is designed to run on future generation computers, top of the line computers today, cannot run with all the graphics settins set to max and all the effects turned on.

	22-11-2004 10:04									#17
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What do you mean? 4.5 GHz processor? 6 GB RAM? Video cards that don't exist?

	22-11-2004 11:12									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident This game is suppsedly designed for computer technology that isn't even out yet.

Sounds like marketing hype to me.

	22-11-2004 11:34									#19
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How about the new Vampires: bloodlines rpg?

	22-11-2004 14:45									#20
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This is a timely thread in my case, so thanks quantum_mechani
I'll most likely be joining the +1Ghz club in the new year, and i'd not even given what games(exclueding FPS+MMORPGs) i would be running to take advantage of this.
RTW is the big one i'll be looking to get, KOTOR i got on xbox and also the CotN game i'll check out(you could try the demo as its now out)........was Morrowind2(Oblivion) coming out on PC?

Hmmm i'd also been looking at those historic strat games from slitherine and might give one of them a try, info here http://www.slitherine.co.uk/ .

Theres also the follow up to Imperium Galactica2 coming some time.

Still the other option is to make some decent games yourself

This is a sad state of affairs

EDIT: i forgot to mention this one, as its one i've been keeping an eye on - i guess its going to be called SeaDogs2 when it comes out in the US/Europe? So far just a russian website link http://www.akella.com/k2/gallery.html it looks like it will require a decent PC(if it comes out i'm tipping it as a 'Pirates!' beater, having been impressed with what i saw of the flawed 'Pirates of the Caribbean' game).

Last edited by child of Thor on 22-11-2004 at 15:58

	22-11-2004 16:01									#21
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor I'll most likely be joining the +1Ghz club in the new year

What, not AMD Athlon 64 club?

	22-11-2004 20:00									#22
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well i like the taste of Celeron with my salads

Its all open - anything goes, i'll probably post a thread asking for advice when the time comes near. At least it will be fun to see who suggests a cyrix

	22-11-2004 20:26									#23
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor well i like the taste of Celeron with my salads

I think it goes better with chips.

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	22-11-2004 23:53									#24
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor I'll most likely be joining the +1Ghz club in the new year.

About time too!

	23-11-2004 18:06									#25
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well i even have to run a slow-down utility on my P166 for some of my fav games(Xcom for example), so i really haven't been in any rush

Still quantums question is a very good one - why bother, especialy if your not going to play MMORPG's or FPS's??

The truth is i have a couple of games i'd like to play, which i can't on my current technology(which has gone up to a PIII 533 recently! wow the speed! ).

But mainly i'm looking to use the extra Ghz in intensive applications like rendering graphics etc, photoshop stuff, compiling C++ etc. There really doesn't appear to be much that is coming out game wise to make that my only reason for breaking the 1Ghz mark......well unless this thread comes up with some good suggestions

	23-11-2004 22:45									#26
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor But mainly i'm looking to use the extra Ghz in intensive applications like rendering graphics etc, photoshop stuff, compiling C++ etc.

Sod that, you have 5 years games to catch up on.

	23-11-2004 23:01									#27
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike About time too!

And how about me Dr. Spike?

I put all the specials from local PC stores, Dells online site, etc, everything from $(US)350 to $675. with specs and everything in a spreadsheet for Queen of the Mark, after giving her an update on what current good specs are (and how far they exceed what our dino 'puter has)

She says she hasnt had time to look at it yet.

At least from a gaming POV im cool with the delay, since im just now getting addicted to Moo2

	23-11-2004 23:07									#28
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark And how about me Dr. Spike? I put all the specials from local PC stores, Dells online site, etc, everything from $(US)350 to $675. with specs and everything in a spreadsheet for Queen of the Mark, after giving her an update on what current good specs are (and how far they exceed what our dino 'puter has)

Sounds like a really good way to fill time that could be used to play good games.

	23-11-2004 23:28									#29
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark She says she hasnt had time to look at it yet.

Translation - She has looked at it, but she can think of better ways to spend the money.

	25-11-2004 07:17									#30
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Sounds like a really good way to fill time that could be used to play good games.

PC buying - like so many games, trivial in single player, but quite challenging in multiplayer

Still have time for Moo2 though. Of course thats a "spreadsheet game" too