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Brent is offline Brent
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Dec 2000
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It sounds like the Civ4 list will be wrapped up soon and some people think it's time for ideas to be for Civ5. Which ideas are good but won't have any chance of being in Civ4? Which could be in expansions? Which would have to wait for Civ5? What new ideas do you have for Civ4 expansions or Civ5? Would we need endorsement from Firaxis before starting a Civ5 list? Would ideas for expansions be submitted similarly to the current list?

Does a game need more details for fewer civs to be a sequel? Or can other things take the place of this? In the past I have expressed a desire to have every civ ever in a civ game eventually, but I guess there would be sure to be some that some people would wish were in but weren't, like maybe the Picts. Different people would include and exclude different peoples in what they would want.

I would want expansions to be mostly scenarios, which would include many more civs, which could easily be ported to the main game. I would want each expansion to have more scenarios than in any single Civ2 or Civ3 expansion, but naturally not all of the civs in the scenarios would be new.

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I would like to see some version of cIV List where only simple stuff that seems coherent with Firaxis would be included. I like Firaxis' direction, even though this does not mean I like everything of it. It's a game for everyone, and so history (and history gaming) should be. Wether for Civ 5, Civ 4 expansion or else, I would aim for that.

I would GREATLY appreciate a comment from Firaxis reviewing what was done so it can be done better, more well adapted, but I don't expect anything like that. Firaxis is a company, and even if we don't know all the reasons, they do not automatically communicate liberally with the exterior. They have their intern dynamism of their own.

Vince278 is offline Vince278
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Dec 2002
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Lets wait and see what Civ4 looks like first.

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When there is a disadvantage to make something in advance, I agree. When there is no disadvantage, bettwer do homework now than tommorrow (espescially when it's fun) even if some around wont get into it.

cIV will change certain things, but not a structure that
we discuss. There will be an expansion pack anyway, quite possibly a ciV. There need to be a use for not doing something earlier, even if I know some wont get in since they don't have a pressure to do so yet.

Besides, the cIV List will arrive when the game is probably already organized, and it will probably not be adapted to Firaxis' needs.

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Nov 2003
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If Civ4 is cIV, shouldn't Civ5 be ciV then? ;-)

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It's not cIV, it's CIV.

Brent is offline Brent
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Civ4 and Civ5 look better to me.

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Why don't you wait for Civ 4 to come out before you worry about Civ5. Since Firaxis just bought the rights to Civ this week I doubt we'll see Civ4 much before January 2006 but more likely summer 2006. That would give them 12-18 months to design the game and write the code.

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I guess that much delay won't make much difference to me. Jan06 certainly wouldn't mean more likelyhood of List ideas trickling into the game. But since they've been working on it and it's all theirs now, I don't understand why the schedule would necessarily change.

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Why don't you wait for Civ 4 to come out before you worry about Civ5. Since Firaxis just bought the rights to Civ this week I doubt we'll see Civ4 much before January 2006 but more likely summer 2006. That would give them 12-18 months to design the game and write the code.


They have already been working on it, so whats your point here?

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2006 is too late.
It'll be 2005, somewhere between may and november.
They've been working for over a year on it already.

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New owners with new ideas and new priorities.


For some reason I really dont thinbk an owner is going to pay 25 million for a franchise and then completely change it all around.

I just dont see that happening

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If Civ4 is cIV, shouldn't Civ5 be ciV then? ;-)


Yep, I already put a copyright on it



I don't think that the Civ franchise will be changed all around, by Firaxis said "1/3 same, 1/3 same but better, 1/3 new". And the new part will be on the line of simple and efficient, adding to fun-factor, user-friendly.

That's why I think that the List could be adapted to this somehow. It does not stop others to discuss the whole issues, but maybe a part should aim at "simple and efficient", which is not about Apolytonian demand, but about something for everyone to appreciate (serious history/civ fans as casual gamers).

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Yep, I already put a copyright on it


What the f.....
I claimed cIv, cIIv, cIIIV, ciV, ciVI and ciVII already. don't take it away from me

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Claims, claims, claims... you did not COPYRIGHTED it. Law is on my side

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Anyone start a wishlist for Civ X yet?

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Yes, Microsoft. Itll be their flagship game on the launch of Xbox 7 and itll be a FPS.

Brent is offline Brent
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Civ10. Riiiiight. I think Civ5 is far enough until shortly after Civ4 is released, thank you very much. But Civ as a flagship for a console would be cool, maybe a handheld, maybe one with a much bigger screen, and of course I would want to play it linked with another handheld... But FPS? Riiiight. How could you possibly call it Civ?

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The OFFICIAL abbreviation for Civ 4 is just "CIV." How do I know? I got da connections man.

Vince278 is offline Vince278
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I'd like to see Civ for cell phones too.

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Why not Civ for digital watches, too? ;-)

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Civ10. Riiiiight. I think Civ5 is far enough until shortly after Civ4 is released, thank you very much. But Civ as a flagship for a console would be cool, maybe a handheld, maybe one with a much bigger screen, and of course I would want to play it linked with another handheld... But FPS? Riiiight. How could you possibly call it Civ?


You're so conservative!
Why no civ-FPS? I was told by some friend of me who works at Firaxis that cIV will have some FPS levels already, in which you can partisipate in a war yourself, and fight the fight one of your soldiers is fighting!

The music is being made by Metallica at this very moment!

Brent is offline Brent
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Are there any ancient historical FPS? Like Roman or whatever? I just would't feel as good about buying Civ4 if it had FPS.

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Yeah, that's the fun of it. You can FP'S' with all kinds of units. It has a flight simulator for the air-battles, tank-commanding for the tank-fights. And ancient speer-fights.

I think that's a big improvement, and it really makes the game very likely for all kinds of players!

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I'd like to see Civ for cell phones too.


Its coming already for N Guage

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