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Chemical Ollie is offline Chemical Ollie
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How could you have sex with them after that?

I don't much about women, so I'm not sure.


You can, but they don't like it. They have no choice though, as you married them.

The purpose of the ritual is to prevent women from being untrue, by removing their ability ot enjoy sex. They can still have sex (though very painful) and they can still give birth, but they would never volonteer for it. Thus, they will stay true to any husband their parents choose for them.

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I think Wikipedia went past neutrality into understatement in the Female Genital Mutilation article, but here are the relevant sections.

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Clitoridectomy

Type II or clitoridectomy is more extensive and implies the partial or total removal of the clitoris, and sometimes also the labia minora. It has only rarely been performed in the English-speaking nations. [5]
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Infibulation

The most complete form of female circumcision is Type III, which is also referred to as infibulation or pharaonic circumcision. It consists of a clitoridectomy, the removal of the labia minora, the cutting of the labia majora and then sewing together the cut labia majora to cover the vagina, leaving an opening to allow urine and menstrual blood to pass through. The sewn-together labia majora are opened by the woman's husband before sexual intercourse.
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Other types of female circumcision

Other forms are collectively referred to as Type IV. This includes a diverse range of practices, including pricking the clitoris with needles, burning or scarring the genitals as well as ripping or tearing of the vagina. Type IV is found primarily among aboriginal tribes and isolated ethnic groups as well as in combination with other types. An example, was practiced as an initiation rite among Australian Aborigines. It involved cutting or tearing the vagina of a pubescent girl to enlarge it, after which the girl engaged in coitus with several male tribal members.

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creative, them aboriginies

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Seems like the other way around, compared to the Africans?

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what the hell is coitus?

*diss gets dictionary out*

edit: I found it. I really should know what this is. I just never heard it called that.

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Haven't you ever practiced Coitus interruptus ?

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You should be catious when practising coitus.

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quote:
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what the hell is coitus?


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what the hell is coitus?

*diss gets dictionary out*


* chegitz guevara points at Diss.

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HAH hah!
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With difficulty and pain for the woman.

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That post would make sense if I'd hit the "quote" button. If I sucked any harder I'd be a serious rival to gravity.

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I hadn't before heard of this happening in those countries, no attempt to single out Europe.


Try reading your own article.

Not that I like the article. It's based on the testimony of one activist, and contains appeals to ignorance and dodgy 'estimates'. And the Scotsman is a terrible paper.

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To compare for men what FGM is like, imagine having the skin on your scrotum cut away with a piece of broken glass, your prostate removed, your nuts shoved up inside you and then sewn shut, then having the glans and frenulum of your penis removed.

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That post would make sense if I'd hit the "quote" button. If I sucked any harder I'd be a serious rival to gravity.


You can still hit quote on the original post you were intending to quote, copy the comment, hit the back button, and then edit your post by inserting the copied text. I do it all the time when I x-post.

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To compare for men what FGM is like, imagine having the skin on your scrotum cut away with a piece of broken glass, your prostate removed, your nuts shoved up inside you and then sewn shut, then having the glans and frenulum of your penis removed.


You've been reported. I did NOT need to imagine that

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Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You can still hit quote on the original post you were intending to quote, copy the comment, hit the back button, and then edit your post by inserting the copied text. I do it all the time when I x-post.


I seem to recall that there once was a group of Russian mystics who practiced such a ritual upon themselves. They would attempt to reshape their genital region into the shape of a star. For some reason the Communists eradicated the practice after they took over.

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brilliant.

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Very mystic...

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Ugh. Chauvenistic "religious" rituals.

*cough*circumcision*cough*

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I prefer cut, over uncut.

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I prefer cut, over uncut.

Genital mutilation supporter!

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*cough*circumcision*cough*


yup, it should be banned too.

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Meh, once the circumcision heals, doesn't the guy live a totally normal life? I imagine he might have very slight difficulties in aiming when he pees compared to an "all natural," but nothing significant. In principle, circumcision seems no worse than ear-piercing or tattoos, it's just more painful initially. But then, I've never had one (I'm sure you folks really wanted to know that!).

The mutilation, on the other hand, is deliberately crippling to the woman, like Chinese foot-binding. Bit of a difference, isn't there?

As for P.C.'s remarks on PC, I'll just pull out the well-worn adage that opinions are like arseholes; we all have one and nobody begs for a look. Ask a hippy sometime how effective it is to just screech your beliefs at those who oppose them. Yeah, some missionaries do the same thing, but those are the crappy missionaries who don't get much in the way of results. Point is, rants and insults just aren't very persuasive. So Political Correctness or something like it might have a purpose to some extent. Am I right?

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quote:
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I prefer cut, over uncut.


re penis

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Originally posted by Asher

Genital mutilation supporter!



Yep, that's me -- evil, despicable, and cruel because I prefer excellent hygiene of private parts.





cut

uncut

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There's also some evidence that circumcision may reduce the transmission of HIV. I'm confident that FGM does not.

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Actually, I'm pretty sure females circumcized will be having sex less, so thereby having a lower transmission rate.

MrFun: If you shower once a day, hygeine is not a problem. I suppose, though, in your case, you may have taken the best course of action.

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MrFun isn't French...

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quote:
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Actually, I'm pretty sure females circumcized will be having sex less, so thereby having a lower transmission rate.

MrFun: If you shower once a day, hygeine is not a problem. I suppose, though, in your case, you may have taken the best course of action.


showering is overrated

 
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