27-11-2004 19:51									#1
	2149 End Turn and 2150 Discussion Support Apolyton

Just in case you can't download the turn from the main turn thread (I couldn't) I attached the turn that Googlie e-mailed me.

I opened it, clicked end transmission for Sparta, and looked around. I don't have much time to play with the game today. I moved nothing and rushed nothing.

At first glance, it looks like our probe was interrogated and returned from Uniland. It also looks like our probe lost the battle at RFR. We have 96 ECs and are one turn away from PEG key.


Mead

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	29-11-2004 09:44									#2
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Here's a save. Rushed a CP and Probe. Switched to Demo. Accidentally contacted Yang when I was trying to get some info on the Gaians and Angels. Yang ignored us. All the crawlers are in position for PEG next turn, and we'll have plenty of cash coming in to cover the last few mins. I sent a probe to the west coast, to be picked up by the transport, which is heading southish. The eastern gator boat has found a possible coastal city.

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	29-11-2004 09:53									#3
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71 ec/yr, tech every 4 yrs (Adap Econ next year), 27 ec's sent to the Spartans...

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	29-11-2004 09:55									#4
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map...

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	29-11-2004 09:56									#5
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more map...

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	29-11-2004 09:59									#6
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Next year we'll have one crawler left. I suggest sending it toward Mor Ind, rehoming it there, then send it to the solar at the peak near ZZT, which will finish in a few years.

	29-11-2004 19:09									#7
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	29-11-2004 20:20									#8
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Crawl energy from Mt. Kody:

	29-11-2004 20:22									#9
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The Spartans switched to Fundy. They must be going to war.

	29-11-2004 20:38									#10
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quote: Originally posted by jtsisyoda The Spartans switched to Fundy. They must be going to war.

With whom? Any idea?

Where are they in relation to us, do we know?

	30-11-2004 03:04									#11
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See Buster ocean Conmcb? that red outline is them. They could be going to war with anyone except the person opposite them on the other side of yang.

It is doubtful that it is us though they aren't patrolling our sealane with ships to sweep out probe foils for instance.

	30-11-2004 03:12									#12
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OK I got it, thanks

	30-11-2004 05:59									#13
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Fundy: it increases morale and probing abilities. Maybe they are just doing some probing. The only negative side it has is slower research and I they don't need research when they can trade or mooch (off an AI).

Their units will cost double to probe, a big negative for us. Anyhow a quick infiltration would answer many of our questions (kudos for hiding the foil in the fungus).

Googlie acts afraid of Yang, especially if they have a sizable border with them. They wouldn't be able to wage war on the other humans.

If there is a war, I'd say its either us or a non-Yang AI.

Attacking us now would be a good move to keep any faction from becoming to powerful. If it is an AI, we could get some leverage on them. I wouldn't be surprised if they landed troops in the Virgin Northeast and hid them in the fungus until they decided to commence action.

Thanks for rushing the CP in Morgan Mussels, now we can build some military ships.

	30-11-2004 06:11									#14
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Hmm. Dodgy. It could be us they're attacking, it could be Yang. I doubt it's another ai or another human faction.

Obviously, a polite inquiry would get us nowhere (Hi, are you planning on destroying our nice corporation?). So what can we do? Plan for an invasion I guess

Moving into fundy will have an instant effect on their morale (I think, haven't the time to test now) so we could expect to get hit any time in the near future. Perhaps we could start a small stockpile of ec's, in case we need to probe some bases back?

I think it would also be a good time to discuss a pact. They get free infiltration on us, sure, but we get it back. Plus, we could try to guage from their reaction what their view of us is.

	30-11-2004 17:30									#15
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since we have just prolonged our treaty i doubt it, on the otherside, since fundi delays tech its may be important for the beeline.
We have adapt econ next turn, so it would be a good moment to discus the tech trading towards AP, just ask for more information and ask why they have chosen for a slower research. That is not the same as asking whether who they are attacking.

btw they planned it longer ago: a few turns ago they said they needed a lot of cash, so this is where it is.

Greetz

	01-12-2004 00:15									#16
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quote: Originally posted by -SafaN- *** We have adapt econ next turn, so it would be a good moment to discus the tech trading towards AP, just ask for more information and ask why they have chosen for a slower research. That is not the same as asking whether who they are attacking.

Good point.


Mead

	01-12-2004 03:22									#17
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Why WOULDN'T Sparta go to war with a non-Yang AI? The non-Yangs AI are the easiest opponent (I figure the AI is pretty stupid) to fight. They grab some territory then the comp will give tribute to get peace.

I suppose the Spartans are focusing on getting the CN and CDF for now (hence their desire for immediate payment on the PK commlink).

	01-12-2004 20:40									#18
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IF there is a war with the Spartans, I'd steal tech from the Uni, or see if they'd join us. We can't fight a war without weapons tech and the Uni. is the least threatening faction we can get weapon tech from.