28-11-2004 05:17									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski I thought it was a great movie and I'm not a Tom Cruise fan. The whole point of the attack is that they knew it was futile to fight. But it is the Samurai way, and the leader want the Emperor to see what was the right way. The most poignant part of the movie was the guy standing at the machine gun and crying as he killed these very honourable samurai. ACK!

They would make a better point if they flanked the fixed position and over run it. The guy would probably cry even more if he was the only survivor among the minced- meat gun crew. It would REALLY prove the Samurai way.

I hate Hollywood movie makers who didn't even go though boot camp. There are just too many idiotic military moves depicted as heroic.

	28-11-2004 05:19									#32
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You didn't get the whole point of the movie then........

;p ACK!

	28-11-2004 05:21									#33
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I just watched Blue Velvet last night with some friends.

	28-11-2004 05:22									#34
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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 The Talented Mr. Ripley next up: Throne of Blood

I loved Throne of Blood. I want the DVD, but $36.oo or thereabouts, is a little steep right now.

	28-11-2004 05:25									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski You didn't get the whole point of the movie then........ ;p ACK!

No, I did not. Please explain to me: What was the honour of losing a battle you could easily have won, by attacking from a 90 degrees different angle?

	28-11-2004 05:26									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie About ten times. But I can't remember any arrogant frontal assault happening there. One guy was shot from behind though

I thought you'd mention that. They are both similar: they are not intended to be "realistic" but instead "poetic". They are both there to make a point: both are in the movie for a specific reason. Last Samurai is completely about the honor of the warrior, and the most honorable thing to do is fight until you are dead. In Platoon, the point of that scene was death of innocense, ie Dafoe's character was the "good" one, and his death was modeled as a sacrafice, but it took dozens of men to bring him down.

I, for one, love poetry in my movies.

	28-11-2004 05:31									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie No, I did not. Please explain to me: What was the honour of losing a battle you could easily have won, by attacking from a 90 degrees different angle?

The point was, the Samurai knew that they couldn't win the war. Even if they had won that battle, they would have lost the war.

The whole point of them fighting was to get the Emperor to do what he finally did and grow some balls.

Japanese culture is different, obviously....

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	28-11-2004 05:35									#38
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That does not explain why they used such clever tactics in the infantry battle the same day. If the point was to die, why not die instantly, just running bravely against a wall of rifles?

	28-11-2004 05:43									#39
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ESB, the new DVD release.

	28-11-2004 05:46									#40
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I watched Hero on Wednesday. Half way through I thought that the movie had utterly no point other to be a vehicle for a seemingly unending stream of gratuitous martial arts battles. The conclusion however tied it all together. This is probably the first Quentin Tarrantino flick that I can say that I truly admired.

I also watched The Incredibles this week. Hey, what can I say, I've got kids.

	28-11-2004 05:46									#41
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What is ESB?

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	28-11-2004 05:48									#42
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The Empire Strikes Back. Duh!

PTHBBPPPTTT!!!

	28-11-2004 05:49									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov The Empire Strikes Back. Duh! PTHBBPPPTTT!!!

D'OH!!!!!

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	28-11-2004 05:52									#44
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I also love Rambo 3, where a Russian GENERAL (!!!) in a helicopter attacks Rambo, who's riding a tank, from the FRONT OF THE TANK INSTEAD OF FLANKING IT. And Rambo just raises the tank gun and shoots the helicopter out of the sky.

It reminds me of something

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	28-11-2004 05:55									#45
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Under Siege 2: Dark Territory with Steven Segal. It was on Channel 10.

I viewed two bad pictures in the cinema lately.

The Forgotten , which seems like a nice psychological thriller but ends up a silly

spoiler(highlight to read): alien movie

.

And I watched "Japanese story" with a lady friend. Literally. At the beginning it was us both and another couple, but they left mid-film saying something like "there's no hope for this".

It was an amusing bad film.

	28-11-2004 05:56									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov Under Siege 2: Dark Territory with Steven Segal. It was on Channel 10. I viewed two bad pictures in the cinema lately. The Forgotten , which seems like a nice psychological thriller but ends up a silly spoiler(highlight to read): alien movie . And I watched "Japanese story" with a lady friend. Literally. At the beginning it was us both and another couple, but they left mid-film saying something like "there's no hope for this". It was an amusing bad film.

Who is in the Forgotten?

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	28-11-2004 05:57									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov ESB, the new DVD release.

I'm gonna watch that tonight, by FAR the best Star Wars film, or I might watch AOTC, I dunno, I'm just in a Star Wars kinda mood!

	28-11-2004 06:02									#48
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Last one:

Troy: What was the writer thinking when he wrote that horsie scene.
Supersize ME :
Bourne Identity 2

	28-11-2004 06:03									#49
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quote: Originally posted by alva Last one: Troy: What was the writer thinking when he wrote that horsie scene. Supersize ME : Bourne Identity 2

that would be The Bourne Supremacy.

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	28-11-2004 06:04									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu (notice the word isn't censored. Great, huh?)

We've known that for a long time now. Don't do it again.

	28-11-2004 06:05									#51
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I'm going to watch "Destroy All Monsters" tonight. That's a classic.

	28-11-2004 06:05									#52
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Which horsie scene Alva?

	28-11-2004 06:08									#53
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The one with the unprecedented huge **** off horse

	28-11-2004 06:09									#54
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ah, sorry I wasn't on the same wavelenght there buddy

	28-11-2004 06:17									#55
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Der Untergang

The guy who plays Hitler deserves an Oscar nomination for best actor...

	28-11-2004 06:24									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Who is in the Forgotten? ACK!

I.... I forget.

spoiler(highlight to read): Julianne Moore, Dominic West

	28-11-2004 06:28									#57
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hmm, this film I did not watch in its entirity, because we were eating thankgiving dinner during it. But it would be License to Kill. not one of the better Bond movies, but I kind of like it.

	28-11-2004 06:31									#58
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Is that the one where they catch the small plane with a snare from a helicopter? And blow a million of tanker trucks with a Zippo lighter?

	28-11-2004 06:41									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie Is that the one where they catch the small plane with a snare from a helicopter? And blow a million of tanker trucks with a Zippo lighter?

yep. It really has some unrealistic action scenes.

The funniest is when he sends an 18 wheeler with a full load of flammable liquids onto 9 wheels and dodges a rocket fired from a shoulder fired launcher.

	28-11-2004 06:46									#60
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Actually, I give Bond movies a "get-out-of-prison- free- ticket for being unrealistic. They are supposed to be exaggerated. Other movies, some of which I mentioned, are unrealistic where you expect them not to be.