05-04-2005 21:34									#301
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	06-04-2005 11:34									#302
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	06-04-2005 13:16									#303
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quote: Originally posted by Andydog You get one when you're about to beat the likes of alexman, jshelr, and sabrewolf in civ.

Oh, I thought it might have something to do with dispatching the indomitable Rommel2D...

	07-04-2005 00:53									#304
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1140ad to the bomber

	07-04-2005 18:28									#305
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Well, the game software rose up and bit us again that turn.

Upon seeing that the loyal opposition had achieved both webbed feet and wings last turn, we decided to take measures to protect or borders, including a declaration of war.

So, we put three cavs in the forest of Tilberg, pressed the F4 key, and further selected the handsome face I think of as "Sabre." However, under active deals I was not able to select peace to renegotiate as a declaration of war. It was faded text.....

Somewhat daunted, I moved on to the "Egyptian whore" Theo (actual fact), whose face I've not been able to imagine as "Andy," god or no god. Here the game was more emphatic, ceasing to run entirely when I tried to declare war. That was probably due to Sabre calling me "bomber" in his post

Whereas the Maya were not intending actually to shoot anybody, I am very disappointed in this development. I cannot think of any fair way to proceed but to shoot first and send the turn on to Arabia, where they are undoubtedly smiling and sunning themselves on the beaches. The Maya have lost the considerable advantage of US due to this breakdown.

	07-04-2005 19:56									#306
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Battle report:

Bombardment is too lengthy to detail on a per shot basis but it should be described adequately, IMO.

Some 12 bombing runs vs the Byz, who were judged guilty of an ancient genocide in a Mayan kangeroo court

A large number of arty shots at the Dutch rubber and one bomber run there. (You can both see the number of units used.)

11 cavs attacked Byz infantry during the turn: 5 died; one has 3 hp; 3 have 1 hp; and two have 4 hp.

That's all folks. As I said, this was not the plan and we were far from ideally arranged to execute it.

	07-04-2005 20:20									#307
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Ah, war at last!

1150 sent.

	07-04-2005 21:58									#308
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but i still did not understand the way you wanted us to declare war...?

and not intending to shoot anybody, but enough transports to carry at least 1 marine and 11 cavalry (probably double that number in total) and at least 13 bombers (IN PLACE!)... that's a slight contradiction.

anyway, congrats to alexman on the victory. building spaceship parts while we are rebuilding our burned down cities and recruiting more units

	07-04-2005 22:40									#309
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I don't know, Sabre, maybe I was wrong. I thought that, having universal sufferage, my best bet was to get you to attack and then hold on against the two of you until citizen revolts forced you back to monarchy.

	07-04-2005 23:54									#310
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that was nasty

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	10-04-2005 17:09									#311
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sorry for the delay for all my games. a friend puked all over my 3000$ notebook which now does not work despite throrough cleaning

i'll get to it asap. my old desktop computer needs reinstalling, then i can catch up

sorry again!

	10-04-2005 22:48									#312
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It's the old "friend puked on my computer story," huh. Expect us to believe that, do ya?

I was expecting to read a battle report detailing how you took all my cities

	12-04-2005 21:21									#313
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i know, it sounds completely unrealistic and insane, but it's true
but some good news: i managed to clean the motherboard with isopropanole (95% alcahol) last night. the notebook works again but when reassembling it i forgot one part (as excuse: it was 2:30AM). once i finish it tonight, i should finally catch up with the 5 games that i have been stalling.

sorry again! cheers

	15-04-2005 19:31									#314
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sorry that i still have not managed to play the turn. workload is huge these weeks and hardly left me any time for installation... i'll try to get to it this weekend!
sorry again and cheers

	16-04-2005 23:54									#315
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ok, finally!

however shocked to see the pure power of devastation of the mighty mayan people!

dutch investigators visited horrified byzantine farmers who had fled into some small caves in the mountains over constantinople and described how there was neverending thunder (bombers?) followed by huge ships apearing on the horizon with mysterious men coming out of the water with guns that sounded like firecrackers. after they had arrived, loads of men on horses stromed in all directions and fought in neighboring cities. then hell opened its gates and sucked the former glorious cities into the ground and closing behind them. only a pile of rubble was left and a few mayan soldiers that had not committed suicide.

the peasants believe that it was the wrath of the legendary iroquois who had been crushed millennia ago, but the dutch governement believes that it was in fact the ruthless mayan who had attacked out of the blue!

	16-04-2005 23:58									#316
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anyhow, the dutch did not really intervene into the war and only removed some mayan forces that were in the immediate vicinity of their border and had killed a unit and the underlying terrain in the process.

1150ad to jshelr (details sent to him)

	18-04-2005 19:48									#317
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1160 to Andy

	20-04-2005 12:46									#318
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1160ad to jshelr

interesting shift of balance...

	20-04-2005 15:47									#319
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..I look forward to recieving the save..

	20-04-2005 16:14									#320
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very nicely done, hitting right at the achilles heel. there were simply not enough shields on Alex small island to get the job done.

and very quickly as well. i thought we were safe from that for at least a couple of more turns given how recently you got flight and amphib war.

let me think for awhile...necessary because I don't have a clue at the moment

	20-04-2005 22:46									#321
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never feel safe when the possibility of well timed (pre)builds exists. switching from infantry to marines costed only 20 extra shields. everything else already existed.

few shields, yes. but taking 6 cities by going through just 3 units (of which only 2 where within the city) made life quite easy.

at least now the playing fields are equalled out a little bit more with the loyal vassals weakened as well after the byzantines losing an awesome production facility (iron works!).

maybe now we have a chance of catching up... i'm still please you guys are not yet in the modern ages :whew:

cheers
the culture-flip-dreading dutchman

	25-04-2005 23:14									#322
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where's the save now?

	29-04-2005 03:07									#323
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sorry... we got back from a long weekend on wednesday but i've been swamped trying to get Canadian taxes done.....

will definitely do something about this tomorrow

	04-05-2005 21:04									#324
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Well, the Byz have honorably concluded they must stick closely with their partners the Dutch. We tip our caps to them for this.

The Maya have looked the situation over and concluded that, if this were a chess game, it would be time to knock over the king There is no sense in pretending that we can last long in a 2vs1 situation.

However, it is a multi-player game and our stopping will influence others' chances. We will be happy to take suggestions as to the proper manner by which to concede.

	04-05-2005 21:42									#325
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OOC:
the whole game long the balance was clearly on your side. now it may be slightly more on our side. but hey... you've still got the biggest civ in nearly every aspect of the game (except maybe unit number), have a technological lead, most of the more important wonders. meanwhile we may sum up to a bit more in total, but andydog lost 3 of his best cities, including an iron works city (what was that... 100 shields per turn?) and i have run out of workable land tiles since centuries.

so don't sell yourself too low. you still have a good chance of winning. and even if not, you can still make our life a living hell
either way, the game could still be interesting

	05-05-2005 04:06									#326
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I really am not stomping off in a huff at the first sign things are not going my way

It's the resource situation (no rubber) that makes any sort of defense impossible.

Otherwise, I would be happy to put up a decent opposition. What I could do under the circumstances would not provide any resistance.

Life is unfair: my lands were predominantly jungle in the beginning and I would still be chopping if Mayan workers were not industrious.

What I would like to do is concede in a manner that the Byz and Dutch mutually regard as fair and proper.

	05-05-2005 04:16									#327
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well, you had lots of rubber so far so probably lots of defence. and the arab island is not (yet) under control. au contraire...

but hey, don't grumble about your lands. you have the biggest area, a central capital, all strategic resorces (except a borrowed rubber) and plenty luxury resources and only 1 direct neighbor. andydog had to fight through rommel and push back alexman's invasion. i had no early stretegic resource except horses and only survived this long because you never really attacked me. and alex most certainly had the worst possible starting location!
so jungle or not... geographically the gods were benevolent to the mayan

anyhow... i'm in london from 5th to 9th of may, so no turns in the coming days from me. sorry 'bout that!

	06-05-2005 05:33									#328
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Must I plead for a dignified surrender, lol.

	07-05-2005 15:17									#329
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well, i had the honour of meeting sabrewolf last night and i must say it was a pleasure.

i only hope he managed to get some sense out of me, because when he turned up the party was in full swing and i was onto my 6th or 7th.

he must have had a few as well, because he got lost after leaving!

guys i'm off to france for a week. i'm sure i'll swing by an internet cafe or two on my travels, so when i have more time i'll respond to game issues.

cheers

	07-05-2005 16:00									#330
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quote: Originally posted by jshelr I really am not stomping off in a huff at the first sign things are not going my way

are you sure about that?