03-12-2004 13:40									#31
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Sorry to hear of your troubles PH. I hope something works out for you.

There are always other lines of work.

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	03-12-2004 14:31									#32
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4 months is good to prepare for, at least you know what's coming.

As for the overqualification, that's the story of my life. Everybody thinks I'll cut and run, when what I really want is a year to de stress.

	03-12-2004 14:35									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident wouldn't it help to speak the language of the country you are going to as well?

That's not necessary. Ask Boshko, Seeker, FP, Drake Tungsten, etc.

	03-12-2004 14:44									#34
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East Asia is actually not a bad idea there, PH - I'd consider it myself if English were my first language.

	03-12-2004 17:34									#35
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Thanks people, a lot of food for thought especially regarding the teaching which has been the big one on my mind for a while and something I have wanted to do for a while.

Still looking at the jobs and worried about the relative pay of these positions - I am not keen on having to take a pay cut...

	03-12-2004 17:42									#36
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Blackadder I through III:

Sorry to hear about this . You're right better out than in etc... is there anyway you can retrain or just get a job that's below you as it were? Can't really offer any practical advice I'm afraid, just feel free to fire off etc when the anxiety begins to kick in, otherwise you'll end up struggling to justify for two hours to get out of bed every morning a la Whaleboy.

PM me if you want to chat or something

	03-12-2004 17:53									#37
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Mmmm, pub

Thankyou Whaleboy.

The thing is, work stress (and I do have a fairly stressful job) doesn't vex me, but when it comes to this kind of stuff I start to crumble very quickly...

	03-12-2004 19:13									#38
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I know what you mean, kind of easy to turn work stress "off" but life is different... have you tried any other methods of dealing with stress (that doesn't involve meds) such as meditation/breathing exercises or some kind of expression?

	04-12-2004 03:43									#39
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Don't be silly

	04-12-2004 03:46									#40
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go down to the pound and laugh at all the poor puppies about to be killed

or a soup kitchen!

	04-12-2004 04:25									#41
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They don't kill puppies at soup kitchens...maybe at Korean ones though

	02-03-2005 03:50									#42
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: I've never heard of being overqualified for a job. Happens quite frequently. They have to pay you more, The boss man is uncertain of his own position, etc...

actually I may have to take my comment back.

I went up for a job, and the guy didn't say I was overqualified, but he seemed surprised, and said I'd be taking a step down. Which is true, I would be taking a huge step down in salary. But I didn't want to put up with the bullshit of my last job. I still might get called for a second interview though. But I probably won't go. After talking with the guy and finding out more what the job does, I don't think I want that kind of work. I still finished the application though.

	02-03-2005 03:56									#43
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im not sure how old you are, but if youre young, single, and unemployed, the idea of going to say East Asia to teach English sounds like a great one. I regret I didnt try for an experience like that at a suitable age.

	02-03-2005 05:25									#44
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"as a last resort"

Monk.......trust me....as long as you don't have the Swedish Chef accent then your english is better than many of the turks, serbs, and palestinians with fake canadian passports I've met here making $32 000 a year.

PH: Get yer ass to Asia. They would LOVE a technical translator who actually knows some science. Into petrochemicals?

	02-03-2005 23:32									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident actually I may have to take my comment back. I went up for a job, and the guy didn't say I was overqualified, but he seemed surprised, and said I'd be taking a step down. Which is true, I would be taking a huge step down in salary. But I didn't want to put up with the bullshit of my last job. I still might get called for a second interview though. But I probably won't go. After talking with the guy and finding out more what the job does, I don't think I want that kind of work. I still finished the application though.

I just got turned down for a job for pitching my presentation at "too intellectual" a level for the audience. The audience were the senior management. I'm not making this up.

	02-03-2005 23:35									#46
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The problem with resurrecting old threads is that a lot happens in between. I belive PH had a happy ending to all his travails.

	02-03-2005 23:48									#47
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that's also a problem when threadjacking

sorry for any threadjack

	02-03-2005 23:50									#48
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quote: Originally posted by alva quote: I've never heard of being overqualified for a job. Happens quite frequently. They have to pay you more, The boss man is uncertain of his own position, etc...

DEMOCRACY IN THE WORKPLACE, NOW!!!

	02-03-2005 23:59									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker "as a last resort" Monk.......trust me....as long as you don't have the Swedish Chef accent then your english is better than many of the turks, serbs, and palestinians with fake canadian passports I've met here making $32 000 a year. PH: Get yer ass to Asia. They would LOVE a technical translator who actually knows some science. Into petrochemicals?

Eugh, when translating doesn't one have to know the local language as well?

	03-03-2005 00:09									#50
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mmm....true...still there is teaching the staff and workers.

Maybe you could even get a job with the place that made the glow-in-the-dark green chimera chicken!!

	03-03-2005 00:19									#51
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i thought it might be from something i said

	03-03-2005 05:49									#52
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Edit: didn't notice the time gap.

My statement about capitalist pigs holds true though

	03-03-2005 10:09									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Perhaps you need to change your job search strategy. Thereis always the alternative of teaching English in an East Asian country, maybe as a last resort. Maybe not, because it's a good idea to get ouside of the UK and see the world when you are still young.

My school will have a whole lot of positions opening up next semester.

	03-03-2005 11:13									#54
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Hey I have dealt with both and have contemplated jumping off a bridge a few times. Im kinda bi-polar. I have failed at everything in life..Im a pathetic sad man who cant kind find happiness.

Every night I loosen my cheap tie over a Jack N Coke and smoke a pack of camels at a bar, alone, contemplating what once...was or what could of been.

I get depressed easily. My situation, my life, the things ive done to people who trusted me, the things people do to me. Its all overwhelming, no pill can help my emotions.

In the end I live under the Radar, waiting for some kind break from this oppressive condition. I rarely speak my mind to the opposite sex unless its scripted.

Depression and anxiety is real. I feel you.

hang in there buddy. I havent kept a job for more than 2 years either. But the only thing i was ever good at was the sales pitch.

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	03-03-2005 11:20									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Thanks people, a lot of food for thought especially regarding the teaching which has been the big one on my mind for a while and something I have wanted to do for a while. Still looking at the jobs and worried about the relative pay of these positions - I am not keen on having to take a pay cut...

Actually that might not be a bad idea. I know one French-Korean who only spoke English and French who had a good sciency job with Samsung. Its definately worth a try.

You could get a pretty damn good job fixing up science stuff written in bad English if you can figure out where to look.

	03-03-2005 18:23									#56
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How's it going Tub?

	03-03-2005 19:55									#57
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F**k off beefcake

Good day to pick on this thread, because I have just been made permanent by GSK, including a £4k pay rise, full noncontributory pension, health and dental care plan, blah, blah, blah, and quite considerable bonuses too. Moving to a nice two bedroom house in a month which you couldn't even concieve affording on your paltry income. And I don't live in Leeds, which is also a bonus too

So things are pretty damn fine thanks

	03-03-2005 19:57									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp I just got turned down for a job for pitching my presentation at "too intellectual" a level for the audience. The audience were the senior management. I'm not making this up.

It's a worrying sign, but true...they want soundbites and bullsh*t.

	03-03-2005 23:30									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison F**k off beefcake Good day to pick on this thread, because I have just been made permanent by GSK, including a £4k pay rise, full noncontributory pension, health and dental care plan, blah, blah, blah, and quite considerable bonuses too. Moving to a nice two bedroom house in a month which you couldn't even concieve affording on your paltry income. And I don't live in Leeds, which is also a bonus too So things are pretty damn fine thanks

great news

	03-03-2005 23:40									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison F**k off beefcake Good day to pick on this thread, because I have just been made permanent by GSK, including a £4k pay rise, full noncontributory pension, health and dental care plan, blah, blah, blah, and quite considerable bonuses too. Moving to a nice two bedroom house in a month which you couldn't even concieve affording on your paltry income. And I don't live in Leeds, which is also a bonus too So things are pretty damn fine thanks

Congratulations PH! It looks like you will be able to afford to go to the CG meet in Rotterdam after all.