03-12-2004 17:04									#1
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Senators, a great issue has divided our hall for some time now, and I thought it high time we resolved this issue so we could all return to our parts at making Rome even greater.

Tabled is a motion for introducing Consuls to aid the Emperor in his dominion over all Roman lands. There have been strong emotions expressed both for and against the formation of Consuls - but what are they supposed to be?

When I was party to the debate, before the recent developments, one or two Consuls were thought to be a good idea - as impartial Senators without strong allegiance save to Rome herself, who could aid in arbitrating disputes involving the Emperor or interpreting Roman law. These positions would rarely be needed, and would have no power over the Emperor or progress of our armies except if a particular issue was deemed too divisive for a single man to decide, however deified.

Now however, it seems another definition for Consuls, one by which Consuls collect views on the peoples' will and present it to the Emperor to guide him in his advancement of Rome, has appeared. These are not binding, but simply to aid the Emperor in his busy hours.

I ask you, Romans, which, if either, is needed? You may feel strongly about this issue, but please let us define what we are talking about once and for all.

	03-12-2004 17:10									#2
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Since I have sought to clear this up, it is up to me to lead this discussion. I do not see the need at this time for Consuls of the latter type - ones to poll the populace on moves to make. However, I believe that, given the recent clash between the former and another ex-Emperor, appointing one or two Consuls as JUSTICES, to arbitrate in the rare case of a dispute such as the one I mention, would be an excellent idea. It need not change anything about the day-to-day operation of the Empire itself, but only in the case that a crisis beckoned would these Consuls step in, and they would quickly resolve the crisis with a judgement, then all would continue.

I hope the rest of the Senate sees the wisdom in these actions.

	03-12-2004 18:44									#3
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I'm not even going to read the pleas for a consul. Nothing personal MWIA, it's just good as it is...

	03-12-2004 19:31									#5
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Banananananananana

	03-12-2004 23:51									#6
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There seems to be no need for Consuls at this time - or ever.

We have survived the proposal to Censure. (Which was all in fun)

The current rotating Consuls do nothing that I know of.

I don't want to play a DG that gets tied down in bureaucracy. This is a nice balance between a Succession and Demo game.

All hail the Banana!

	04-12-2004 00:35									#7
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We should have Consuls as per item 1 on the poll, they should not be able to impose on the emporers term but merely offer advice, but we do need some form of judiciary to settle disputes!!

This poll though genuine enough distracts from the poill to come when our PPP Paddy gets around to it.

	04-12-2004 02:45									#8
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Let our beloved PPPaddy decide the heated disputes.

	04-12-2004 03:12									#9
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no consuls, senators are fine enough

	04-12-2004 06:42									#10
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All Hail the Imperial Bananas.

I thought Senators were meant to be doing what we are asking the position of Consuls to do, and it also seems as though we have plenty of Emperors Emeritus handing out free advice.
Let's call them Bananis Imperialis!

	07-12-2004 01:55									#11
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Where is this going, if anywhere?

	08-12-2004 02:45									#12
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between bananas and drinking lately

I thought it was about ROME?

dont know how much more i can take