06-12-2004 22:12									#31
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Yes, virtual screens, a special utility that makes it run, etc., it's all fine. However, Civ3 is the only game so high-tech that it refuses to run on anything less than 1024x768, normally.

	08-12-2004 07:15									#32
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote: Originally posted by Solver Well, Civ2 units were distinguishable as in it was usually possible to tell which unit is which unit type, but it didn't help at all if I could never tell if my unit is adjacent to the enemy one or not, that isometric view only gave me headaches.

Sounds like you played ToT with its infamous floating, non-centered units. I've never had that problem with Civ 2.42/MGE.

	08-12-2004 20:49									#33
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I will shoot anyone who is heretical against CIV2!

Keep in mind that overall graphic technology has moved on just a 'wee bit' since the 1994-1998 era!

I think a 3D, steroid-injected isometric view is on the cards.
The Pirates/Rome Total War look is the most likely candidate.

Now I am going back to my 'hard to see' CIV2 graphics!

	08-12-2004 22:36									#34
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

If you are talking to me, I loved Civ2, but
1) time has passed and so has the expectations and possibilities.
and
2) Firaxis need to make a game people like, and not a game some old fans of Civ2 on an internet site like.

I don't care much for graphics, it's a long way down on the list for me, but it has to look like a new game in some way or another.

	08-12-2004 22:52									#35
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Nikolai stole the words from my mouth.

	11-12-2004 00:27									#36
	Get a bigger avatar today!

quote: Originally posted by Nikolai If you are talking to me, I loved Civ2, but...

I wasn't actually talking to you, but if you feel obliged to think that way, go ahead!

quote: Originally posted by Nikolai 1) time has passed and so has the expectations and possibilities. and...

Do you assume I am any different?
Why do you think I mod the game?
Because I like the original graphics?

quote: Originally posted by Nikolai 2) Firaxis need to make a game people like, and not a game some old fans of Civ2 on an internet site like.

Old fans have money too, and will buy CIV4 if it passes muster.

CIV3 did not pass muster - Hence, I stuck with CIV2.

quote: Originally posted by Nikolai I don't care much for graphics, it's a long way down on the list for me, but it has to look like a new game in some way or another.

Wrong.
Graphics do count - To a degree, at least.
Megalomania must look good onscreen.

It has to play like the old, but add much that is new, and much that is improved.

	11-12-2004 00:28									#37
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by Alex Nikolai stole the words from my mouth.

I hope he gives them back.

	11-12-2004 16:52									#38
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

I looked at the current scans... and I did all I could to try and not like the graphics.


But I cant!!


I just love them! Even though they are all quite happy and cartoony like!

I think that it means that Civ is finally getting back to its old tongue in cheek, silly attitude (like with the newspapers and stuff).

actually this gives me a thread idea.

	11-12-2004 17:36									#39
	... Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

oops

Last edited by Sirotnikov on 11-12-2004 at 17:46

	24-12-2004 08:23									#40
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Civ I graphics are fine by me.

Sure, graphics came a long way, but I much rather Sid & Co. put resources on improving gameplay instead of graphics. This is not about realism, it's about fun.