05-12-2004 09:16									#1
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Any scenarios on the Judean revolt against Antiochus Epiphanes, circa 167 BCE, IIRC?


Id be interested in downloading one, in time for Hannukah

	06-12-2004 05:22									#2
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No, IIRC, but it would be nice to have it...
You could make it...
I considered Maccabees' scenario in my (never-made) projects...
but after many others, one of them related to Judea, too...

	11-12-2004 02:38									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Gagliaudo No, IIRC, but it would be nice to have it... You could make it... I considered Maccabees' scenario in my (never-made) projects... but after many others, one of them related to Judea, too...

I might do that. Ive started reading the book of Maccabees, so thats a start on the research.

	11-12-2004 02:49									#4
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All new scenarios are extremely welcome!

	05-01-2005 15:30									#5
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Nice idea. it would make a good scen as the AI can have overwhelming force and still can thhe player win

	05-01-2005 18:46									#6
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I am with Gagliaudo.
I would be very interested in your tech tree - you have already proven to have mastered that with Seeds of Greatness.

	05-01-2005 19:37									#7
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wait, wait, wait....

LOTM, are you Kull Culivan?? That would be yet another more reason to have a high opinion about you

	05-01-2005 20:23									#8
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OOPS my mistake. He is not Paul. I thought Lord of the Mark did the tree but I think he did only the tech discriptions for Kull.

I misread a post.

	05-01-2005 22:33									#9
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark I might do that. Ive started reading the book of Maccabees, so thats a start on the research.

Good man. I have some Seleucid, Ptolemaic and Judean units for the period if that will help.

	05-01-2005 22:35									#10
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Paul Cullivan is 'Kull' at Apolyton BTW.

	05-01-2005 23:10									#11
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I though so , thanks fairline.

	06-01-2005 09:44									#12
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quote: Originally posted by beingofone OOPS my mistake. He is not Paul. I thought Lord of the Mark did the tree but I think he did only the tech discriptions for Kull. I misread a post.

Thats correct. I am not Paul. Paul did the scenarios - which I liked very much, and was inspired to write tech descriptions. Its always seemed to odd to me that we have so much interest in history, and so many scenarios written, but hardly any have tech descriptions, which were such an interesting part of the original game.

I didnt realize what I was getting into. It was quite a major piece of research. I enjoyed working with Paul, to the extent that I had contact with him, and I was glad to contribute something to the scen community - ive never actually done a scen, Maccabees would be my first if i do it.

	06-01-2005 09:49									#13
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quote: Originally posted by beingofone I am with Gagliaudo. I would be very interested in your tech tree - you have already proven to have mastered that with Seeds of Greatness.

I wouldnt be inclined to much of a tech tree, other than perhaps as a way of triggering events etc. The Maccabee revolt happened over less than a decade, IIRC - no real "research" during that period. Of course one could have the Maccabs/Judeans discovering "faith in Hashem" or something like that. Would guerrilla warfare be something they "discover" or start with? I really do need to read some sources, and see if there was a trigger point where they began to use guerrila warfare.

	06-01-2005 21:52									#14
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quote: I wouldnt be inclined to much of a tech tree, other than perhaps as a way of triggering events etc.The Maccabee revolt happened over less than a decade, IIRC - no real "research" during that period.

That is why I am most interested. Seeing how you compress a tech tree for such a short period.

quote: I really do need to read some sources, and see if there was a trigger point where they began to use guerrila warfare.

169 is the best guess by most historians. Just after Antiochus campaigned in Egypt. The king then marched to Jerusalem and killed 80,000 people and sacrificed the pig on the alter. ( 2 Maccabees 6:1-4).
I think Mattathias the Hasmoneaon started the rebellion just after the pig sacrificing incident.

You probably already know all that Lord- I remember our last discussion.

	07-01-2005 05:33									#15
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There were also specific battles you may want to simulate, such as at Beit Horon.

	08-01-2005 22:53									#16
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And I wait for Eleazar fighting alone against the elephant...