07-12-2004 01:56									#1
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quote: PRESIDENT BUSH: I think the long-term vision is one that is a relationship which is very mature in this sense: that there is a commercial relationship which is fair and balanced, mutually beneficial to both people; a defense relationship which is one in which there is close collaboration and complementary efforts based upon the true threats of the 21st century. And thirdly, there's a relationship in which I can call upon my friend to help deal with international issues, such as the development of a Palestinian state, one in which the aspirations of the Palestinian people are met and listened to, because democracy has taken hold. One of the interesting lessons that the world can look at is Pakistan. You see, there are some in the world who do not believe that a Muslim society can self-govern. Some believe that the only solution for government in parts of the world is for there to be tyranny or despotism. I don't believe that. The Pakistan people have proven that those cynics are wrong. And where President Musharraf can help in world peace is to help remind people what is possible. And the solution in the Middle East is for there to be a world effort to help the Palestinians develop a state that is truly free -- one that's got an independent judiciary, one that's got a civil society, one that's got the capacity to fight off the terrorists, one that allows for dissent, one in which people can vote. And President Musharraf can play a big role in helping achieve that objective.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/rele...20041204-2.html

And yes, 60 million Americans voted for this man.

	07-12-2004 02:00									#2
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Bush knows theory of aproximations well. If declared (defined) so it is so. Pakistani constitution says define Pakistan.getSocialState=Democracy. It is so. Did you study exact sciences?

	07-12-2004 02:03									#3
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Is someone actually defending this, or am I seeing things?

I guess Stalin ran a free, democratic society (as you can tell from the Soviet constitution).

	07-12-2004 02:08									#4
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I can't believe people voted for this moron.

	07-12-2004 02:12									#5
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"The Pakistan people have proven that"

I agree, must be an idiot. Shouldn't this be The people of Pakistan or Pakistani? Isn't this like saying The Sweden people? Dudn't make sense..

	07-12-2004 02:21									#6
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Did he actually try and use Pakistan as an example of what we want in the ME?

Are we sure he gave up that coke habit?

-Arrian

	07-12-2004 02:26									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Are we sure he gave up that coke habit?

He's drunk...

	07-12-2004 02:26									#8
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I read news report after news report about Bush and I can't believe what I read and hear.

If we are going to support our "friend" Musharraf, fine. If he can help us form a Palestine democracy (yeah, right), fine. But do you have to say that Pakistan is a democracy?

Doesn't the whole world know that Musharraf seized power from an elected Pakistan government? Isn't the whole world aware that Musharraf very carefully controlled the process of the latest referendum, a year or two ago, that allows him to legally stay in power? Hasn't he broken his own promise about transferring government control from military (him) to an elected government?

unbelievable.

	07-12-2004 02:26									#9
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The best part of this whole thing is how Musharraf is supposed to be some sort of spokesman as to why Muslim societies don't need dictators. Irony, thy name is Shrub.

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	07-12-2004 02:28									#10
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Idiocy, not irony.

-Arrian

	07-12-2004 02:28									#11
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FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS!

	07-12-2004 02:52									#13
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THIS JUST IN

DinoDoc's legendary 'Gives A F---' found hooded and bound with electrical wire in a remote Pakistani jail!

Mr "Doc" denies any connection to the Musharraf regime, citing 'US national security concerns'.

EDITED FOR SILLINESS

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	07-12-2004 03:06									#14
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It's DinoD's famous 'Gives A F---' , NOT DanS's.

	07-12-2004 03:12									#15
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Yeah, that'd be DD's gives a ****.

-Arrian

	07-12-2004 03:24									#17
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Time for a little creative editing.

	07-12-2004 04:38									#18
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quote: Originally posted by muxec Bush knows theory of aproximations well. If declared (defined) so it is so. Pakistani constitution says define Pakistan.getSocialState=Democracy. It is so. Did you study exact sciences?

Then NK is democratic as well?

	07-12-2004 04:40									#19
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Pakistan is democratic; after all 98% of people voted for him the last time he bothered to have a referendum.

	07-12-2004 05:24									#20
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Seriously. The next four years?

Very, very bad for my blood pressure.

	07-12-2004 05:27									#21
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http://box7.illusionfxnet.com/~froz...opic.php?t=4661

	07-12-2004 06:57									#22
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I think the point that people are missing is that if Pakistan is Bush's idea of Democracy... to gain "victory" in Iraq, all we need to do is make Iraq like Pakistan... MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

	07-12-2004 07:03									#23
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and then we need to make america like iraq!

	07-12-2004 07:18									#26
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LOOKS LIKE CHEGITZ WANTS A BEAT DOWN!!!!!

	07-12-2004 07:19									#27
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why do you hate democrazy che!

	07-12-2004 07:19									#28
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He's a TRAITOR!!!!!

	07-12-2004 07:20									#29
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no worse... he's JOHN TITOR

	07-12-2004 08:01									#30
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2002 Election Results


Data Extracted from Daily Dawn


National Assembly Results
PPPP PMLQ PMLN MMA NA MQM ANP INDP OTHR Total out of
Punjab 34 66 15 3 7 15 6 146 148
Sindh 27 4 7 5 13 1 4 61 61
NWFP 4 29 2 35 35
Balochistan 2 1 6 1 1 1 12 14
FATA 7 5 12 12
Islamabad 1 1 2 2
Total 62 76 16 53 13 13 0 22 13 268 272


% Seats in National Assembly
PPPP PMLQ PMLN MMA NA MQM ANP INDP OTHR Total
% of Punjab 23% 45% 10% 2% 5% 10% 4% 99%
% of Sindh 44% 7% 11% 8% 21% 2% 7% 100%
% of NWFP 11% 83% 6% 100%
% of Balochistan 14% 7% 43% 7% 7% 7% 86%
% of FATA 58% 42% 100%
% of Islamabad 50% 50% 100%
% of Total NA 23% 28% 6% 19% 5% 5% 0% 8% 5% 100%



Provincial Assembly Results
PPPP PMLQ PMLN MMA NA MQM ANP INDP OTHR Total out of
Punjab 60 127 37 6 12 39 6 287 297
Sindh 50 10 13 12 28 5 12 130 130
NWFP 8 8 5 48 8 12 10 99 99
Balochistan 2 8 14 3 7 14 48 51



% Seats in Provincial Assemblies
PPPP PMLQ PMLN MMA NA MQM ANP INDP OTHR Total out of
Punjab 20% 43% 12% 2% 4% 13% 2% 100% 297
Sindh 38% 8% 10% 9% 22% 4% 9% 100% 130
NWFP 8% 8% 5% 48% 8% 12% 10% 100% 99
Balochistan 4% 16% 27% 6% 14% 27% 94% 51



Multi-party elections??