08-12-2004 23:01									#1
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We've had lots of threads about games. And a few about game companies. This thread is to name the INDIVIDUAL person involved in gaming who has done the most to merit praise, fame, etc. While Im thinking primarily of game designers, lets not forget coders, artists, etc, or for that matter visionary individuals at publishing houses, hard ware makers, retailers, etc. Even members of the fan community, such as prominent modders, etc (er, lets NOT discuss proprietors of famous Civ websites, please).

Who deserves fame, and why?

	08-12-2004 23:08									#2
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Sid Meier, for obvious reasons (duh).

Brian Reynolds, for obvious reasons too (he made SMAC, the best TBS of all time).

	08-12-2004 23:11									#3
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Will Wright - for appealing to the widest audience (think Sims)
Peter Molyneux - for his crazy ideas that nobody likes of late, but hey, at least he's innovative

John Carmack and John Romero - for being the craziest coders like ever

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	08-12-2004 23:15									#4
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Steve Barcia: Master of Orion 1 & 2, Master of Magic. I've found his games to be accessible, yet extremely deep (but also somewhat buggy ).

	08-12-2004 23:21									#5
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Lord British, even if some of his more recent efforts have been less-than-stellar.

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Oh, also, of course, lest we forget:

Shigeru Miyamoto - for making Mario, Donkey Kong and Legend of Zelda.

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Lord British for being an uber geek.

	08-12-2004 23:41									#8
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Oh, and the dudes that made D&D.

	08-12-2004 23:49									#9
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quote: Originally posted by DaveV Steve Barcia: Master of Orion 1 & 2, Master of Magic. I've found his games to be accessible, yet extremely deep (but also somewhat buggy ).

Has he done any games since MoO2?

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Gary Gygax, that would be then.

Feargus Urquhart for Baldur's Gate etc.

-Jam

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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Feargus Urquhart for Baldur's Gate etc.

And for Fallout!

	09-12-2004 00:35									#12
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Has he done any games since MoO2?

See this link. Short answer if you don't want to follow the link: maybe Metroid Prime.

Which reminds me that Alan Emrich and Tom Hughes deserve mention for publishing several strategy guides that were actually worthy of the name.

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Anyone at Bungie

What's the name of the guys who did Myst?

	09-12-2004 01:51									#14
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quote: Originally posted by ZargonX Lord British

Agreed. Whole-heartedly I might add.

And of course, Sid Meier.

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Defently Will Wright

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Will Wright is interesting, for Simcity as much as for the Sims. Simcity had a big impact on spreading PC gaming outside the "hardcore" much earlier (it was my first PC game) and was a principle inspiration for Civ, according to Sid.

	09-12-2004 02:41									#17
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quote: Originally posted by vovan Will Wright - for appealing to the widest audience (think Sims)

Its sad that he'll be mostly remembered for the annoying trash that is the sims and its infinite sequels and expansions now. I hope EA burns down, without insurance.

Yuji Naka (programmer) and Naoto Oshima (artist) for creating Sonic the Hedgehog, I probably wouldve said the worst idea for a game character since Jack the Ripper on Spectrum at the time, but it worked.

Also Paul and Oliver Collyer for inventing a little game called Championship Manager.

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quote: Originally posted by vovan Will Wright - for appealing to the widest audience (think Sims) Peter Molyneux - for his crazy ideas that nobody likes of late, but hey, at least he's innovative John Carmack and John Romero - for being the craziest coders like ever

Is it a general rule that coders of FPS are crazier than coders of TBS games?

	09-12-2004 03:09									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Gary Gygax, that would be then. -Jam

Well I guess i didnt say ELECTRONIC, now did I? So since we're opening it up, let me add Jim Dunnigan, who started the modern war game craze at Avalon Hill, and went on to lead SPI through its glory years. Not just PC wargames, but Civ and the whole TBS genre owe alot to him.

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The dude who came up with first computer RPG.

And there are no females in this industry?

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No, duh.

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quote: And there are no females in this industry?

Theyre called tea ladies.

Except of course the St. Swithin aka Winnie Lee of CtP2!

	09-12-2004 05:27									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus The dude who came up with first computer RPG. And there are no females in this industry?

a couple, not many. Oddly (or maybe not) some involved with shooters and that sort - the above named crazy coders of FPS's are both associated with a woman designer, I think.

There was an article on this recently. I cant recall where.

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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora Its sad that he'll be mostly remembered for the annoying trash that is the sims and its infinite sequels and expansions now. I hope EA burns down, without insurance.

That's how it goes. Wright will be remembered for Sims, Molyneux will be remembered for Black and White. As time goes on, the classics that gave them fame originally are forgotten.

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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Is it a general rule that coders of FPS are crazier than coders of TBS games?

Uhh, yeah? Would a normal person code a game where you kill everything that moves, and try to make it as gory and realistic as possible?

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The most prominent female game designer has also posed in Playboy.

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quote: Originally posted by Barinthus And there are no females in this industry?

I believe a woman designed and coded the original King's Quest? I forget her name though.

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Chris Taylor for Total Annihilation...

Jane Jensen for the Gabriel Knight series...

Chris Sawyer for the lovely Transport Tycoon and the first Rollercoaster Tycoon...

Bruce Shelley, he helped Sid to create Civilization and then created the new standard for RTSs with Age of Empires...

Steve Russell for creating Spacewar, the first interactive computer game ever, back in 1961.

Nolan Bushnell for two things: Atari and Pong

And, of course, Christopher Hartpence (AKA Velocyrix) for his giant contribution to this community...

(I could extend this to all the Civ and CTP modders who worked hard to create better game experiences, but I'll leave this to others... )

	09-12-2004 07:16									#30
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Roberta Williams.