09-12-2004 06:59									#1
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How do I use convoys

Ive been at this game for 3 weeks now and I cant figure this out

	09-12-2004 09:20									#2
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Go to your Trade/Convoy screen. Select 'convoy'. Click on the province you wish to convoy from and then select the province you wish to convoy to.
Then with this convoy selected you edit the number of transports/escorts making it up and the resources being carried.

	09-12-2004 09:35									#3
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Now that is settled let's talk about something else. Anyone want to talk about HOI2? I'd like to know when it comes out.

	09-12-2004 11:00									#4
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Oh thanks I figured it out!


Cool theres a HOI 2

	09-12-2004 11:27									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Now that is settled let's talk about something else. Anyone want to talk about HOI2? I'd like to know when it comes out.

It's gold now. I've heard a (rumoured) release date of January 4th. 3 weeks or so doesn't sound too far out of the question though so it may be correct.
This however is in your neck of the woods.

Projected release date here isn't until mid-February.

	09-12-2004 11:41									#6
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I hope HOI 2 has a manual

HOI manual was crap. I was on the Shitter the this weekend reading it. It said "Turn to page 58" But the book ended on page 29?

	09-12-2004 13:39									#7
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It's better they wait a few more months instead of rushing out a buggy product just to make the Xmas buying season.

	09-12-2004 20:39									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin It's better they wait a few more months instead of rushing out a buggy product just to make the Xmas buying season.

It's going to be in stores January 4th.

	09-12-2004 20:56									#9
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No, Johan said the preorders would ship on January 4th. We'll probably get the game a few days later I guess.

	10-12-2004 01:55									#10
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I guess that waiting paid off for me. I just bought the Hearts of Iron platinum edition. Finally a bug free and playtested game for a fair price. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.


P.S
It does come with a real manual this time.

Last edited by CapTVK on 10-12-2004 at 02:03

	10-12-2004 10:21									#11
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One thing I do like about Johan and the gang at Paradox. Sometimes they do rush products (EU II, HOI).

anybody else notice this?

They ALWAYS support there product!

They keep patching until the bugs are gone. So even if it were rushed I would get it.

	10-12-2004 13:23									#12
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They do indeed. Paradox.

Not only patching too - EU2 has been ~95% bug-free since about 1.05/1.06 - Much of what Johan has been doing since then has been balancing/tweaking and adding new features.

I've oft thought that with but a little more polish on the original product they could advertise their continued support as a feature and sell subscriptions for such - much like Stardock with Galactic Civs.

	12-12-2004 01:04									#13
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HOI2:

I'm definately getting this one!

	12-12-2004 05:28									#14
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I'm rather optimistic about HoI 2 (it has loads of neat features and maybe it will be less buggy than their previous games, though obviously not perfect), but I'm still going to wait and see how the first buyers react...I can certainly wait for patches, but that doesn't mean that I'll rush to buy it with my eyes closed.

	12-12-2004 05:32									#15
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I am very exited for HoI2. Lots of new features, more refined game in every aspect, much like EU1 --> EU2 I hope, and last but not least: Several previews has mentioned it beingmuch more stable and less bug ridden than a normal Paradox game. Maybe they finally has managed to fix that main big problem for their reputation in the market.

	12-12-2004 06:56									#16
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I am slightly less optimistic on the playability of HoI2 out of package, but the, quite devoted, Fans will pull out another CORE soon enough I assume.

The First Version is never perfekt, so much things get changed in the First patches that by 1.05 its almost

So lets wait for Hoi2 1.03 instead, the stable HOI ;=)

	14-12-2004 15:51									#17
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I have to admite that I bought EU2 and HOI right after they were released and I was disappointed by how rushed, buggy, and unstable they were. Paradox kept supporting their products but it took a year or two before things were really fixed. In my mind a year or two of part time patching would equal 3-5 months of full time pre-release bug sorting. They need to start spending the extra time to sort the games out properly during beta.

	14-12-2004 18:19									#18
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Which is what they have done with HoI2 if I have understood their info, release date(early January vs old pre-Christmas) and the previews I've seen so far.

	15-12-2004 09:03									#19
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can't wait.

er

will wait probably until summer, one or two patches in.

Or will the manual features actually match the game features this time from the get-go?

	15-12-2004 17:40									#20
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I think one preview mentioned that the manual seems to be way better this time... Not sure which one said so though. Also the previews seem to agree that HoI2 is more finished on a beta stage than earlier Paradox games.

	15-12-2004 21:51									#21
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I really did like the original HoI and a massive WW2 strategy game is exactly what I'm looking for. After reading the reviews it sounds like Paradox kept the good parts of the game (depth, complexity, grand strategic planning) and fixed some of the big problems (an interface which often made it labor intensive for players to do what they wanted). I know I will buy this game because I know Paradox will stand behind their product but I do hope this game is better sorted "out of the box" then previous Paradox releases.

	15-12-2004 22:11									#22
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From Bombtown's review:

quote: The beta was stable (until you start a war, then it gets buggy and crashes a lot) and just needs quite a bit of gameplay balancing and the adding of more details, like more generals.

	16-12-2004 01:13									#23
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The beta every single preview has used, is the September beta btw. Johan said so today/yesterday. As the game went gold a few days ago, I am confident the game will be better than we are used to, although I don't think it will be flawless.

	16-12-2004 07:42									#24
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I will buy the new game as soon as physics permits.

Sigh. I carry the heavy burden of desire upon the gravel path of time. Roll on February 18.