10-12-2004 00:15									#31
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To hell with it all.



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	10-12-2004 00:16									#32
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They redefined mariage OMG, how can they!

	10-12-2004 00:24									#33
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quote: Young says if the definition of marriage is redefined to two persons, what is to stop a father and a son, or two brothers from marrying.

So if you instead define marriage to involve a man and a woman, does that mean that a guy can marry his mother, sister, or daughter?

	10-12-2004 00:36									#34
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Power of the majority brainwashed by the illuminati

	10-12-2004 01:03									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Garth Vader Decent weather, what are you talking about This is my current weather Temp: -19.1°C Light Snow Wind: NE at 17 km/h Wind Gusts: N/A km/h Windchill: -30.0 °C Dew Point: -23.5 °C Humidex: N/A°C Relative Humidity: 68.0% Visibility: 24.1 km Barometric Pressure: 101.48 kPa I haven't even switched to the winter jacket yet

heres mine

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	10-12-2004 01:05									#36
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quote: One top Liberal predicted the legislation should pass easily after its introduction, likely early next year. It already has the support of the 38-member Liberal cabinet and virtually all the 54 Bloc Quebecois and 19 New Democrat MPs.

Bring it on!

	10-12-2004 01:08									#37
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quote: The ruling by the court in Ottawa brings to the final stages a long, bitter fight over whether gays and lesbians should be allowed to marry in Canada.

What long, bitter fight?

Nothing has been challenged, the government has ostentatiously beat down all Private Member's bills that do not endorse gay marriage.

They've refused calls for a referendum.

They've failed to appeal the cases when they arose.

You've had a smooth path, and clear sailings.

	10-12-2004 01:11									#38
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quote: He'd better not be! We're getting married in a couple hours!

Did you get my reply?

There are a long list of conditions...

I put the emphasis on long

	10-12-2004 01:13									#39
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quote: The people of Canada must have a say," said Landolt. "The time has come that we will restore democracy across Canada." Landolt says the traditional definition of marriage should be enshrined in the constitution. Bastien says he believes the majority of Canadians don't want same-sex marriage and that Liberal elites and their appointees are driving policy.

Yeah, let's have a referendum. What is Paul Martin afraid of? Let the people have a say.

	10-12-2004 01:15									#40
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quote: In a non-binding opinion released Thursday morning, the court reaffirmed religious freedoms under the Charter, saying religious officials opposed to same-sex marriages do not have to perform them. It also declined to answer whether same-sex marriage was required by the constitution.

About as much as could be hoped for from our courts.

Leaving it up to the legislature.

	10-12-2004 01:32									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Yeah, let's have a referendum. What is Paul Martin afraid of? Let the people have a say.

Why? What's popular isn't always the right thing to do.

	10-12-2004 01:37									#42
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ewwww, gay people.

Anyway, gay couples recieved equal financial and social rights a couple of days ago. You should've heard some of the exploding heads on the radio.

	10-12-2004 01:37									#43
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how are you going to breed in canada now?

	10-12-2004 01:40									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki Why? What's popular isn't always the right thing to do.

As evidenced by the US election?

	10-12-2004 01:43									#45
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It's not like people like Ben Kenobi would cease their complaints over gay marriage if a referendum (In favour of gay marriage) went through, so what's the point? But he needn't worry, because the beauty of legalising gay marriage means that while he is free to marry another man, he is not obliged to. Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one! Everyone wins!

	10-12-2004 02:34									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Yeah, let's have a referendum. What is Paul Martin afraid of? Let the people have a say.

Some people are afraid of tyranny of the majority.

	10-12-2004 02:36									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Yeah, let's have a referendum. What is Paul Martin afraid of? Let the people have a say.

Ah of course, you want to roll out the most vocal hicks to vote against 'those horrible puffs'. Let's face it, you are advocating a tyranny of the majority rather than the right of a minority which, I will stress again, is none of your business whatsoever.

	10-12-2004 02:50									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie It's not like people like Ben Kenobi would cease their complaints over gay marriage if a referendum (In favour of gay marriage) went through, so what's the point? But he needn't worry, because the beauty of legalising gay marriage means that while he is free to marry another man, he is not obliged to. Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one! Everyone wins!

No, because clearly it shows that gay marriage has a very bad effect on moral. I mean just look. OMG! they are marrying!! I mean... OMG!!! Marriage can only be between a man and a woman... **** man listen to George W. He is dah man that tells you! Man+Woman = Marriage, Man+Man = sin = teh evil terrorist.

	10-12-2004 02:55									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa No, because clearly it shows that gay marriage has a very bad effect on moral. I mean just look. OMG! they are marrying!! I mean... OMG!!! Marriage can only be between a man and a woman... **** man listen to George W. He is dah man that tells you! Man+Woman = Marriage, Man+Man = sin = teh evil terrorist.

IF GAYS MARRY THEY WILL DIVORCE DIVORCE IS A SIN BAN GAY MARRIAGE NOW!11!!!11

	10-12-2004 02:55									#50
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I think me and MrFun had exactly the same thought almost simultaneously. Which is scary

	10-12-2004 02:56									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa No, because clearly it shows that gay marriage has a very bad effect on moral. I mean just look. OMG! they are marrying!! I mean... OMG!!! Marriage can only be between a man and a woman... **** man listen to George W. He is dah man that tells you! Man+Woman = Marriage, Man+Man = sin = teh evil terrorist.

Well, you know what they say . . . . .

you can get a medal with honors for killing a man in combat.

But if you're a man who loves another man, you will be dishonorably discharged.

	10-12-2004 02:57									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison I think me and MrFun had exactly the same thought almost simultaneously. Which is scary

Yes we did. Otherwise, I would have sued you for deliberate plagarism.

	10-12-2004 02:58									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison I think me and MrFun had exactly the same thought almost simultaneously. Which is scary

MrFun and I.

	10-12-2004 02:59									#54
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RUN!!!!!!!!!!!

IT'S A GRAMMAR NAZI!!!!!!!!!

	10-12-2004 03:00									#55
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OMG YOUR GOOD AT GRAMMAR TASS!

	10-12-2004 03:16									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar MrFun and I.

STFU, to put it mildly

	10-12-2004 03:19									#57
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quote: Originally posted by joncha OMG YOUR GOOD AT GRAMMAR TASS!

Gentle sir,
If you desire success in these endeavors, you might benefit by toning down your rhetoric.
With precious little patience for pithy presumption,
Tassadar

	10-12-2004 03:23									#58
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quote: Why? What's popular isn't always the right thing to do.

First of all, do you admit that the majority of the people oppose gay marriage?

Secondly, you are very right. Why should it be right for society to restrict marriage to one man and one woman? Why doesn't society recognise all partnerships, of any sort on par with marriage? Because the recognition of marriage has benefits for the society that can only be found within the union of a man and a woman.

	10-12-2004 03:27									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Because the recognition of marriage has benefits for the society that can only be found within the union of a man and a woman.

Not it doesn't.

	10-12-2004 03:28									#60
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quote: It's not like people like Ben Kenobi would cease their complaints over gay marriage if a referendum (In favour of gay marriage) went through, so what's the point?

If it went against me? Then I would have to eat crow, and say that this is what ought to be law, because most Canadians want this. Instead, you are making the case, that the judiciary has rejected, that this is an issue to be decided by the justices.

The supreme court has rejected any constitutional link between the establishment of gay marriage, and between section 15 equality rights. What this means, is that such marriage rights are irrelevant to the constitution. If there were such a right, why wouldn't the court have established the constitutionality of gay marriage according to section 15?

Rather, they have taken a different route, that marriage is to be determined by the legislature, and the representatives duly elected by the people. As such, it is no longer a question, of a tyranny of the majority, because the courts feel the majority ought to have a say on this issue.

quote: But he needn't worry, because the beauty of legalising gay marriage means that while he is free to marry another man, he is not obliged to. Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one! Everyone wins!

Sure, but why should I pay for the benefits? As such, I do get a say into marriage, as does everyone else here in Canada.