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jagjef is offline jagjef
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Feb 2003
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The year was 255 BC and the people of Rome demanded a new order, Imperialism is the way. So Revolution it is.
Carthago who still will not see the futile with a war with Rome, put's some troops on Sicily.
Our glourious army heads west.

250 BC In anarchy,
The City of Lost Dreams and Forum Jagjef is founded.
The Roman celebrates a victory on Sicily, Carthagian blood floods on the hills of Sicily
Small amounts of Carthagians is killed on our northwest border.
Cleopatra wants ROP, Rome says NO.

245 BC Still in anarchy,
Scythia and Persia creates an alliance against Celts.
macedonians creates the Great Libries in Athens.

240 BC Still in anarchy,
Great Victory on the spanish Eastcoast, Rusicade is conquered from Carthago.
Carthago lands more troop on Sicily, more Carthagian blood on the now red hills of Sicily.
Carthago thows in the elefants on the walls of Rusicade.
GA is no more.

235 BC Still in Anarchy,
Hordes of elefants and cavalerys dies at the wall of Rusicade.
Cartagian bribes the stupid Scytians to declare war with Rome.
Macedonian and Celts creates an alliance against Scytia.
Egypt and Persia allies against Celts
Carthago and Persia allies against Macedonians

Our score before and after the year of chaos:
http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=28024_Scores.JPG

Main Italy:
http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=28024_MainItaly.JPG

Northen Territories: http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=28024_NorthernTerritories.JPG

Western Front: http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=28024_Elitesinspain.JPG

ChrisiusMaximus is offline ChrisiusMaximus
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Jul 2002
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Well done Emporer that is good work, you did well considering you had to serve whilst in anarchy

Long live Senator Jagjef,

Long Live Rome !!!

Modo44 is offline Modo44
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Jul 2004
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All hail the Emperor.


The dumb barbarians declared war on Rome? Nice to know they like to make our citizens happy.
Oh, yeah, more Legion training.

Aqualung71 is offline Aqualung71
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Oct 2002
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Good work, Emperor Jagjef....you have seen our Empire safely into the Imperialist phase. We shall forge ahead now

McMeadows is offline McMeadows
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Hmm I have a few remarks.

1. Why didn't you raze Rusicade and founded a new city 1 from where Rusicade? A citizen was accompanying the army of Trajan. I see the spice source has been pillaged. A Legion can reroad it when the anarchy is over and then the Baccnalia can be built.

2. What's that Roman Legion doing in the mountains near Barcalona?

Furthermore, welll done. It's not a fun job to rule in anarchy.

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1. Why didn't you raze Rusicade and founded a new city 1 from where Rusicade? A citizen was accompanying the army of Trajan. I see the spice source has been pillaged. A Legion can reroad it when the anarchy is over and then the Baccnalia can be built.

I was out of movement for the army when I took Rusicade, the spice was still roaded. The following onslaught on Rusicade left little to do except fortify and wait for reinforcement.

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2. What's that Roman Legion doing in the mountains near Barcalona?

They saw some spanish maid's in the mountains and decided for a detour.

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Furthermore, welll done. It's not a fun job to rule in anarchy.

No, I had some futile hope for a short time of anarchy, but no, we are still in anarchy when our next Emperor opens the sacred save.

Pray to the banana for better luck in the future.

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We are way too far behind in territory to be raizing cities where not vital to do so. Keeping Rusicade allows that citizen to infill a new city.

This will improve security on our SW border due to ability of cash-rushing + the money to do so with Imperalism.

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Hmm I have a few remarks.

1. Why didn't you raze Rusicade and founded a new city 1 from where Rusicade? A citizen was accompanying the army of Trajan. I see the spice source has been pillaged. A Legion can reroad it when the anarchy is over and then the Baccnalia can be built.

2. What's that Roman Legion doing in the mountains near Barcalona?

Furthermore, welll done. It's not a fun job to rule in anarchy.

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The next Emperor is kindly asked to pay more attention to the happiness levels of our citizens along with micromanging for anarchy.

And also please found a new city somewhere with that spare citizen in Rusicade, back along that river just north near the wine would be great.

skrobism is offline skrobism
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Oct 2000
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Well done well done! Soon the people will settle down and see the wisdom of the Imperial Bananatatis Jagjef.

Long live Rome!

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We are way too far behind in territory to be raizing cities where not vital to do so. Keeping Rusicade allows that citizen to infill a new city.

This will improve security on our SW border due to ability of cash-rushing + the money to do so with Imperalism.


Nagging Carthegenian inhabitants are reason enough to me. Having that citizen at hand, it would have been a simple No we don't want the city, burn it to the ground and build a new Roman city on a better spot. Pumping out citizins in Italy is no trouble at all with accelerated production.

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it would have been a simple No we don't want the city, burn it to the ground and build a new Roman city on a better spot


Yes, I agree with MacMeadow that it would have been a better spot to have the city on the spice, where it would have better defence with the river. But without movement and with Carthagians attaking from south and north, I'm glad that the Army survived at all, it was down to 2points left.

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wow... I'd expected the army would have had a piece of cake. Nonetheless Rusicade can still be abandoned. Probably up to Emperor Snoopius

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It only has 1 foreign national inside. As soon as it comes out of resistance, it will be happy. It is really cheap to send the former ruling classes male children to Rome for an education and return so that it will be a Roman city.

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snoopy369 is offline snoopy369

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The next Emperor is kindly asked to pay more attention to the happiness levels of our citizens along with micromanging for anarchy.

And also please found a new city somewhere with that spare citizen in Rusicade, back along that river just north near the wine would be great.


Joncnunn, the spice problem IS the happiness. You *have* to prioritize surviving citizens over unhappiness in anarchy, when you have too few lux resources.

We wouldn't have this problem if Rusicade had been razed and the spice been built on - the cities that would starve down several pop wouldn't face that decision. I'm going to try to road it during anarchy anyhow, if it's possible, I want to avoid losing buildings. I may lose 1 population in some of the cities, but that may be unavoidable. I may also raze rusicade anyhow and just move the citizen over - that will be put to a poll in a moment.

What you have to realize is the strategy of Rome is much different than normal Civ. Rome has a much easier time expanding than most civs, losing only 1 unit per citizen, and having more quickly moving citizens. You can afford to lose a city or two to gain significant advantage - and were we to own spices we'd not have the concerns over happiness we have now, saving us many citizens and production ... if we had saved 5 population (which we would have and then some, starting pre-anarchy) we would have saved 5 citizens' worth of population, and undoubtedly much more than 20 shields of production ... think about it.

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