21-09-2000 02:11									#1
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I have the original Civilization (Sid meyers) and I loved playing the game in college on my 386. Now I have a Pentium 450 running Windows 95 and the game won't run after I install it!!

Is there a patch to allow it to run at higher processor speeds? I can get it to run on my 233 laptop, but my PC just dies. What gives? Anyone know any common install problems I can try? I get the sound card delect and mouse/keyboard select screens, but after that it just sits there and does nothing.

Someone give me clue!! Here is my platform:
AMD K6-2 450Mhz
128m RAM
Soundblaster Basic 16 soundcard (cheap, but works good)
Everything else is generic.
Win 95 build C

Randy

	21-09-2000 06:06									#2
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I don't know if I can help you. I just upgraded to a similar system and had no problems.

Of course, Other stuff refuses to run.
Try playing with the properties, meory and stuff alowed the program.

	21-09-2000 06:42									#3
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Is Civ1 even Windows 95 compatible??

	21-09-2000 12:21									#4
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I would try to run it under DOS.

	21-09-2000 16:49									#5
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Runs fine with me under 95.

Is it an original copy or abandonware? Which version?

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	21-09-2000 18:55									#6
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I tried every combination I can think of:
DOS mode
Adjusted memory settings
Adjusted graphics settings
As for the version, I don't know off hand, but I am using my back-up discs since the originals were damaged during transit. Any chance someone here who doesn't play the game anymore be willing to e-mail me a different copy to try? I'd appreciate it.

Randy
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	21-09-2000 19:25									#7
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is there a way to download it anywhere? I mean the original CIV

	22-09-2000 09:00									#8
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Geez, just do a search on the net, Andy, there are lots of places. All illegal, as Civ is not Abandonware (I think). If it is, then it's still illegal but morally justified.

	21-09-2000 23:33									#9
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I think that your problem may be the amount of base memory required. Memory management in Win95/98 isn't as good as it's supposed to be for older programs designed for DOS. Try creating a boot disk on a floppy, removing everything not essential from AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS and boot yout system from that. See the "Master of Magic" thread I started with a similar query about running that game on a Win98 system. The same book disk works very well for the original Civ.

Thanks again to Andz83 who solved this problem for me.

[This message has been edited by John D Ward (edited September 21, 2000).]

	21-09-2000 23:37									#10
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I know, Snapcase, but I'm too lazy to look for it...

	22-09-2000 05:03									#11
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Andy, that site that has MoM also has Civ.....

	22-09-2000 06:17									#12
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Not DOS mode, straight DOS, like 6.22.

	22-09-2000 15:40									#13
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I think I may have it!

It just so happens that I have my Civ1 CD here at work (don't ask) so I gave it a quick spin and it works fine, but it reminded me of the problems I had in the past -- the symptoms you are describing are identical to those I met when my sound card wasn't COMPLETELY SB compatible - try again with the EGA, no sound and Mouse + keyboard options - mine ran straight in Win95C

Hope this helps...

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	22-09-2000 20:30									#14
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I have a 700MHz Athlon with 128Mb...I would resent having to use such an antiquated method as using a boot disk which I abandoned somewhere earlier in the 90s. I'm sure there must be a way around it...

	22-09-2000 23:57									#15
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Well, I'm not too sure but you could always try the techw0rm boot disk from http://www.w0rm.8m.com/ . It fixes many technical problems and gives a too good memory management (easily over 620k base memory).

NOTE: Because of server problems, you need a download program with download continuing feature. Try Getright from http://www.getright.com .

	23-09-2000 00:43									#16
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Tried the no sound card option - No luck.

Tried finding the application via warez etc. and just got broken links, unneeded cracks, or porn (Geez!).

I'm going to go with boot disk next but that will be unacceptable since my wife wants to play and she can't wait for the reboot to play.

I am also going to strip the Autoexec and Config files to the bare minimum and see if I can play with the LH and Devicehigh options to put as much out of the way as possible, btu I am betting it won't help.

Anyone know how much lower (640K) memeory Civ needs to run reliably?

Thanks for all your help. This has been driving me insane. I'm a mechanic at heart so if you ahve car questions, drop me an e-mail (no spam please)

Randy
randygaz@mobile spam .mail.@.@remove this @dot@dot cellular.net

I think you can figure that e-mail out.

Thanks again

	26-09-2000 09:43									#17
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Randy - the memory requirements are pretty modest. I used to play civ on a computer with 512K of RAM, so I doubt that memory is your problem. Could it be a graphics problem? I think Civ ran in CGA - I had problems with another computer that wouldn't run any CGA games.

	26-09-2000 05:09									#18
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(download from mirror site 2)

Yes, the legend never dies. And there is a version of civ1 made later for win 3.1, colonization too. The win 3.1 version should work for win 95

	31-10-2000 04:13									#19
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Hey, RGAZ, I just downloaded civ1 for windows, and now I don't have to go through that business anymore about DOS. it works fine, and the settler cheat even still works!!
The only problem is I can't figure out how to rush buy something yet.
if you don't feel like tracking it down through those fraking sites, I can email you the zip file I have.
just send me a PM or email

	25-11-2000 15:29									#20
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I had a few problems with the original civ too. It works fine on most of my comps. But idried to run it on an amd 586 133mhz with 16mb ram and it runs really slow- I push an arrrow and it takes the unit about 5 secs to move and when it moves it slides really slow instead of moving almost instantley. If i play through dos it's fine but i don't wanna cause i got no mouse drivers and it sucks without the mouse. Also civnet does the same thing but on a diffent comp. It gives me some message about fonts in control pannel.

My advice if you can't get civ to work get civnet play civnet. It is virtually the same as the original except it has better graphics. Multiplayer support and was desinged for 95/3.x. Hope this helps.