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Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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1. Just finishing the multivariable calculus course. Next semester is the Linear Algebra one. Since I already know everything in the textbook, I just read the Linear Algebra textbook during class.

2. The classes are ridiculously slow and easy.

3. Eventually I want to get a PhD in it

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I took math through Calculus in high school, and was good enough at it to get all sorts of high scores on the Calc AP test, math sections of the SAT, ACT, GRE, etc.

But I never found math that interesting, so I never kept with it.

Now that I help my daughter with her homework (she's turned into exactly the kind of math student I was -- good but indifferent), I'm surprised at how much I remember. But that will all go away when she gets to Trig; the two worst teachers I ever had, in any subject, were my two trig teachers.

What I was never offered in school, though, was Probability and Statistics; I don't know why. But I sure wish I had a better background in that. Anybody care to recommend a good book?

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Can't remember any offhand, but Martin Gardner's Aha! Gotcha! has a section on probability and statistics, and IIRC it has a section of reference books at the end.

That's a good book in itself. Recommended.

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Mathematics gives me a sick feeling in my stomach.

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That's what you get for eating maths books.

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quote:
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Mathematics gives me a sick feeling in my stomach.


Its English courses that make me sick. but I tend to get gooder at it over time.

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A little. The first part I'm studying is a lead I'm following for finding the Grand Unified Theory. If I told you why I was studying up on Kerr black holes you'd think I was drinking all that snake oil.


Superstrings:

I would be majoring in Physics, but I suck at math (I got a D in High School Calculus) so I'm majoring in Biology.

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quote:
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Mathematics gives me a sick feeling in my stomach.


MrFun

Math

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1. Just finishing the multivariable calculus course. Next semester is the Linear Algebra one. Since I already know everything in the textbook, I just read the Linear Algebra textbook during class.

2. The classes are ridiculously slow and easy.

3. Eventually I want to get a PhD in it


You're still in HS, arn't you?

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Yes, 11th grade

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Yes, 11th grade


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That's what you get for eating maths books.



oh . . . . .


I wasn't suppose to chew on the books then.

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Its English courses that make me sick. but I tend to get gooder at it over time.


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1. Just finishing the multivariable calculus course. Next semester is the Linear Algebra one. Since I already know everything in the textbook, I just read the Linear Algebra textbook during class.

2. The classes are ridiculously slow and easy.

3. Eventually I want to get a PhD in it

You should skip teh lower level clesses and go straight up to the proof-oriented classes where you actually learn real math. Since you're clearly quite smart, you can fill any small holes from skipping earlier stuff as you go along. For example, I never formally took much multivariable calculus or linear algebra, but still have to problems with the introductory real analysis course I'm taking. I also strongly recommend a general topology class; it requires very little background and is quite interesting!

(BTW, where do you live? Somehow I have some memory of your "location" field formerly saying somewhere in missouri (I'm in St. Louis))

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Oh, come on, I'm 9th grade age and even further along in math. IMHO, most intelligent numerically oriented people can be perfectly capable of doing college math by the time they're in high school if the educational system doesn't hinder them.

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What's FSMU?



Free Standing Maths Unit. Basically, it is the same as the first two modules AS maths (C1 and C2)

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Hunting down tax evaders?


No, things like billion dollar defraudments.

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You should skip teh lower level clesses and go straight up to the proof-oriented classes where you actually learn real math. Since you're clearly quite smart, you can fill any small holes from skipping earlier stuff as you go along. For example, I never formally took much multivariable calculus or linear algebra, but still have to problems with the introductory real analysis course I'm taking. I also strongly recommend a general topology class; it requires very little background and is quite interesting!


Not possible. We have a linear math curriculum.

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(BTW, where do you live? Somehow I have some memory of your "location" field formerly saying somewhere in missouri (I'm in St. Louis))


Northern Virginia.

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No, things like billion dollar defraudments.


Does that involve using any maths you didn't already know at 14?

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Does that involve using any maths you didn't already know at 14?


With the exception of derivative markets, no.

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I would point out however that a 14 year could not do my job.

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I'm beginning Calculus now.

I've always been in the honors/advanced program since 2nd grade, and I've been in the top third of the class every year.

I will get to Linear Algebra and Vector Calculus before graduating High School, and I'll do some more math in college.

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I would point out however that a 14 year could not do my job


Yeah. We belive you. mmmkay?


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You should skip teh lower level clesses and go straight up to the proof-oriented classes where you actually learn real math. Since you're clearly quite smart, you can fill any small holes from skipping earlier stuff as you go along. For example, I never formally took much multivariable calculus or linear algebra, but still have to problems with the introductory real analysis course I'm taking. I also strongly recommend a general topology class; it requires very little background and is quite interesting!



excuse me while I go throw-up

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You should skip teh lower level clesses and go straight up to the proof-oriented classes where you actually learn real math. Since you're clearly quite smart, you can fill any small holes from skipping earlier stuff as you go along. For example, I never formally took much multivariable calculus or linear algebra, but still have to problems with the introductory real analysis course I'm taking. I also strongly recommend a general topology class; it requires very little background and is quite interesting!


Not possible. We have a linear math curriculum.

I would still recommend you try to find a way around the system...

 
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