15-12-2004 09:52									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo No you think about it. Get your head out of the sand and think for yourself. This is a war of liberation to remove the tyranny of Saddam Hussein. I say if I was in Bush's position I would of took the chance. There are many thousands upon thousands more who were freed from the torture of Hussein. SO YOU THINK ABOUT IT!

I have.

Let's face it, Giancarlo, you support this war fanatically, but you would **** yourself if you ever were sent to Iraq like these young men have.

They're fighting and dying for Bush's personal grudge.

They're spending hundreds of billions of dollars of US taxdollars that are better spent on domestic issues.

	15-12-2004 09:53									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Two different things.

What's different about them? Convenience for your argument?

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The majority of the recent mayors have been REPUBLICANS! The city is a disfunctional mess because there are a million different deligates on the council none of which can agree on much of anything. Not that they could do much if they wanted to because everything is completely rigged so that the subcommittees and special interests can block anything they don't like.

Not the current. The city is in a mess because of him.

	15-12-2004 09:53									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Asher It is much better to spend it on disasterous wars in which hundreds of thousands of young men and women die, on the other side of the world, right?

It's actually around 1100.

	15-12-2004 09:54									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I have. Let's face it, Giancarlo, you support this war fanatically, but you would **** yourself if you ever were sent to Iraq like these young men have. They're fighting and dying for Bush's personal grudge. They're spending hundreds of billions of dollars of US taxdollars that are better spent on domestic issues.

Oh shut up. You have issues and it might have to do with smoking various substances. I don't care what you think. You live in Canada. Bush won the election. Blah blah blah blah...

	15-12-2004 09:56									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin It's actually around 1100.

Actually, it's not just Americans that are dying in Iraq.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo -$300 million... that is the gap in the budget.

Alot of that has to do with the State's financial difficulties. Normally the state refunds money to cities to cover state mandated programs but due to the financial crisis Davis and his cohorts in the state house put us in Arnie had to cut those refunds to the bone. Now the state still mandates those programs but no longer helps to pay for them.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Oh shut up. You have issues and it might have to do with smoking various substances. I don't care what you think. You live in Canada. Bush won the election. Blah blah blah blah...

Sadly, this is your best argument in the thread.

	15-12-2004 09:56									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Actually, it's not just Americans that are dying in Iraq.

Blah blah blah blah.. do you actually give a **** about the Iraqis? What do you want? Saddam reinstated? I'm sure that'll work for you.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo -$300 million... that is the gap in the budget. That is what happened under the current mayor's adminstration. $11 billion expansion at the L.A airport.. you want to know what that was about? It was for expanding a few terminals. $11 ****ing billion dollars.. what a waste of money.

Fantastic. Meanwhile the backbone of conservative power in California, Orange County, is still paying off a multimillion dollar debt from a REAL bankruptsy years ago.

Talk about fiscal responsibilty

Airports provide real returns on investment that bring billions of dollars of commerce into a city

LAX carries more international travelers into the US than any other airport

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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Fantastic. Meanwhile the backbone of conservative power in California, Orange County, is still paying off a multimillion dollar debt from a REAL bankruptsy years ago. Talk about fiscal responsibilty

Not all republicans nationwide are good. Take B-1 Bob (Bob Dornan).. a true ass.

quote: Airports provide real returns on investment that bring billions of dollars of commerce into a city

Not when a hideously ridiculous amount of money is spent on something that seems almost minor. Some upgrading. Not even the Hong Kong or Singapore airport cost that much (I forget which city.. but they had to build a whole new island in the ocean for the airport).

	15-12-2004 09:59									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Blah blah blah blah.. do you actually give a **** about the Iraqis? What do you want? Saddam reinstated? I'm sure that'll work for you.

I would prefer if a genetic clone of Stalin could take over, perhaps modified with the help of stem cell research, and exterminate all Christians in Iraq.

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	15-12-2004 09:59									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I swing left and right, where appropriate. I support Afghanistan, I do not support Iraq. And Iraq is a disaster. It's not any better now than it was before, but thousands of young Americans have died, and many more Iraqis have died as well. These kids that are being killed over there..they're 18, 19, 20 years old, man. They're our age. Think about it.

Asher

Flexibility

Adapting to changing situations and not religiously pinning oneself to rigid dogma.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: This is a war of liberation to remove the tyranny of Saddam Hussein. Who's going to remove the tyranny of Bush from the US? I hope the French come and liberate us .

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Unfortunately for you guys, Bush won the election.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher Actually, it's not just Americans that are dying in Iraq.

If you count every Iraqi who died in Iraq since the war started you wouldn't even get close to the "hundreds of thousands" you previously claimed. The Iraqi government released a report claiming total Iraqi deaths due to coalition forces since the start of the war was between 13k-15k nearly all of whom died in the actual invasion.

The Iraqi government reviewed the claims made by groups such as iraqbodycount.com and found their claims of 50k dead Iraqis just didn't match coroners reports, hospital records, or burial records. The varified numbers are in the low teens.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Unfortunately for you guys, Bush won the election.

Unfortunately for the financial health of this country you mean.

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin Unfortunately for the financial health of this country you mean.

Nope. And you think John ****ing Kerry would be better for this country? What happened to you people? Betray your own beliefs because you hate Bush? Oerdin another liberal..

	15-12-2004 10:02									#49
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Hey

We got Weapons of Mass Destruction in the US! Europe needs to come and liberate us from our Fearless Leader

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The Iraqi government reviewed the claims

Remind me again who appointed the current Iraqi government?

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Hey We got Weapons of Mass Destruction in the US! Europe needs to come and liberate us from our Fearless Leader

Better yet, I'll liberate this country from you and send you to Cuba.

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You can betray your own beliefs if you do in action against them. If you change your beliefs, it's not betraying them. Just being an ass .

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quote: Originally posted by Asher Remind me again who appointed the current Iraqi government?

Unfortunately for you, the Iraqi government is recognized as legitimate.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Better yet, I'll liberate this country from you and send you to Cuba.

I'll send you to Nunavut. You'd love it there -- the Eskimos get naked and use their hairy bodies for body heat in the arctic.

	15-12-2004 10:05									#55
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I thought the original topic was pretty interesting. Urban renewal loses out over Gulf War II casualty figures.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Not all republicans nationwide are good. Take B-1 Bob (Bob Dornan).. a true ass. Not when a hideously ridiculous amount of money is spent on something that seems almost minor. Some upgrading. Not even the Hong Kong or Singapore airport cost that much (I forget which city.. but they had to build a whole new island in the ocean for the airport).

It will pay for itself AND provide for profit.

The airport hasn't had any major improvements in well over 20 years.

If you haven't noticed, there are not the usual stores and food stands and restaurants at LAX that bring in lots of money. The parking is also way crowded.

Personally I like the airport the way it is because it has alot of classic style and lacks all of those shops that other airports have.

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Unfortunately for you, the Iraqi government is recognized as legitimate.

Doesn't make it trustworthy.

In fact, I don't really trust any government.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher I'll send you to Nunavut. You'd love it there -- the Eskimos get naked and use their hairy bodies for body heat in the arctic.

Oh you visit there all the time?

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Oh you visit there all the time?

I am the Premier of Nunavut.

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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker It will pay for itself AND provide for profit. The airport hasn't had any major improvements in well over 20 years. If you haven't noticed, there are not the usual stores and food stands and restaurants at LAX that bring in lots of money. The parking is also way crowded. Personally I like the airport the way it is because it has alot of classic style and lacks all of those shops that other airports have.

I think a lot of the $11 billion is going into red tape rather then actual investment. If you lived in L.A you would know the facts about this disasterous allocation. It doesn't take $11 billion to make improvements.