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City Obtains Court Order To Close Apartment Complex
Authorities Say Apartment Used By Crips Set

POSTED: 3:55 pm PST December 14, 2004
LOS ANGELES -- In what was described as the first case of its kind, the city obtained a court order closing a South Los Angeles apartment complex used for decades by a Crips set, the City Attorney's Office said Tuesday.

"This is not something that the City Attorney's Office normally does," City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo said in the 6900 block of South Main Street. "But these are not normal circumstances."

City Councilwoman Jan Perry was also there to offer her support for the action taken.

"We will no longer tolerate criminals taking over our buildings and endangering our families," she said. "And, today, we say enough is enough, and we cannot allow this domestic terrorism to continue."

But that did little to assuage the feelings of some residents who said they are not criminals and are being given an eviction notice at a particularly bad time of the year.

"This is right before Christmas!" one woman yelled.

Another asked: "What are we going to do with all these kids?"

The order closes a 24-unit complex across from Bethune Middle School that authorities say was used as a base for more than 20 years by the 69 East Coast Crips. At times, Delgadillo said, children at Bethune have been taken out of classrooms and herded into the cafeteria until police can secure the campus perimeter.

Since June 2002, police have documented 18 drug arrests and 13 drive-by shootings in the area, that left nine people -- including two children -- wounded.

Seventeen loaded firearms have been recovered from the apartments, and gang members have been regularly arrested for such crimes as assault with a deadly weapon, murder and robberies, officials said.

Students were robbed so frequently as they walked by the apartments that they were told not to do so, according to deputy city attorneys Jonathan Cristall and Anne Tremblay.

The order by Superior Court Judge Susan Bryant-Deason requires that the apartments be closed for at least 90 days, after which the property's owners will only be able to use the structure for commercial purposes, and with court approval, according to the City Attorney's Office.

The judge's order comes in a public nuisance lawsuit the city filed Sept. 8. The suit is the first time the city has sought to close a property based on criminal gang activity through the use of a judge's preliminary injunction, officials said.

Delgadillo said "we are taking back the rights of students and teachers to go safely to and from school and ridding this neighborhood of a magnet for gang activity."


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It was the right thing to do.

They should however do whatever they can to take care of any law abiding people who may have lived in those apartments.

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The people in there have the right to live in safe environment. I'd hate it if I'd move down there and found living next to that. Being nervous all the time what's going to happen. So they need to go. Maybe they could have waited over Christmas though.

And not because they are who they are, but because they have shown statistical facts of causing trouble in there. Simple solution to a clear problem.

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L.A sucks. The city is in bankruptcy because of the democrats. The infrastructure is a disaster.

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While I don't disagree with it, I question what will happen now...I mean, they make an example of one complex, but what about the dozens of others that assuradly harbor this criminals. Do you evict the hundreds of people, now that you've set the precident?

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Not necessarily. I think the point is local peace. Just like if you keep being loud in apartment, you get evicted. If you make trouble, you might get evicted.

This is just a big eviction. They had statistics. Robberies, drive-by's etc. That's MORE than being loud in your apartment, and this should also be a reason to be evicted, because it's lot worse for the locals than someóne being loud at night.

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L.A sucks. The city is in bankruptcy because of the democrats. The infrastructure is a disaster.

They should take a lesson in fiscal responsibility from model republicans, like George W.

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The people in there have the right to live in safe environment. I'd hate it if I'd move down there and found living next to that. Being nervous all the time what's going to happen. So they need to go. Maybe they could have waited over Christmas though.

And not because they are who they are, but because they have shown statistical facts of causing trouble in there. Simple solution to a clear problem.


Good point, it may have been wise to do it after Christmas.

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Its the city doing the evictions though, not the landlords (if I read it right). That means that they should do this across the board. Will the city be better now with HOMELESS Crips?

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L.A sucks. The city is in bankruptcy because of the democrats. The infrastructure is a disaster.


Then move to Orange County

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They should take a lesson in fiscal responsibility from model republicans, like George W.




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I didn't know LA was near bankruptcy.. but the infrastructure in there sure sucks, that's true

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They should take a lesson in fiscal responsibility from model republicans, like George W.


Bush spends right, like giving tax breaks to major corporations. Not welfare programs like disasterous liberal policy.

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And massive deficits

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Bush spends right, like giving tax breaks to major corporations. Not welfare programs like disasterous liberal policy.

It is much better to spend it on disasterous wars in which hundreds of thousands of young men and women die, on the other side of the world, right?

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And massive deficits


As long as businesses are in good shape it is appropriate. But Michael Moore liberals as yourself want to give money to welfare crap.

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The city should do eminent domain and demolish the building. That would be better for the city's health overall. Only evicting the tenants may make it an abandoned building used by crack addicts.

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As long as businesses are in good shape it is appropriate.

You have the economic understanding of a retarded three-year old in a coma.

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It is much better to spend it on disasterous wars in which hundreds of thousands of young men and women die, on the other side of the world, right?


Since when did you swing to the left? I'm disappointed in you asher. You adopted the same old bullshit rhetoric I have heard from many. Afghanistan and Iraq aren't disasterous wars. They are wars of liberation.

I'm really disappointed in you, asher.

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I didn't know LA was near bankruptcy.



It's not, he's just exaggerating


There is a bill about to be passed that is financing an 11 billion dollar expansion of the LAX airport that includes half a billion dollars in local neighborhood improvements

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Imran, you Michael Moore liberal!

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As far as the building goes, the city needs to re-examine safety policy.

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Since when did you swing to the left? I'm disappointed in you asher. You adopted the same old bullshit rhetoric I have heard from many. Afghanistan and Iraq aren't disasterous wars. They are wars of liberation.

I'm really disappointed in you, asher.

I swing left and right, where appropriate.

I support Afghanistan, I do not support Iraq.

And Iraq is a disaster. It's not any better now than it was before, but thousands of young Americans have died, and many more Iraqis have died as well.

These kids that are being killed over there..they're 18, 19, 20 years old, man. They're our age.

Think about it.

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As long as businesses are in good shape it is appropriate.


Yeah, they'll sure be in good shape when the deficit has to be paid off and interest rates rise .

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It's not, he's just exaggerating


There is a bill about to be passed that is financing an 11 billion dollar expansion of the LAX airport that includes half a billion dollars in local neighborhood improvements


-$300 million... that is the gap in the budget. That is what happened under the current mayor's adminstration. $11 billion expansion at the L.A airport.. you want to know what that was about? It was for expanding a few terminals. $11 ****ing billion dollars.. what a waste of money.

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And Iraq is a disaster. It's not any better now than it was before, but thousands of young Americans have died, and many more Iraqis have died as well.

These kids that are being killed over there..they're 18, 19, 20 years old, man. They're our age.

Think about it.


No you think about it. Get your head out of the sand and think for yourself. This is a war of liberation to remove the tyranny of Saddam Hussein. I say if I was in Bush's position I would of took the chance. There are many thousands upon thousands more who were freed from the torture of Hussein.

SO YOU THINK ABOUT IT!

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This is a war of liberation to remove the tyranny of Saddam Hussein.


Who's going to remove the tyranny of Bush from the US? I hope the French come and liberate us .

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-$300 million... that is the gap in the budget. That is what happened under the current mayor's adminstration.

The term for that is deficit.

Pop quiz: What's the US Federal deficit under the current President's administration?

Man, you set yourself up...

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L.A sucks. The city is in bankruptcy because of the democrats. The infrastructure is a disaster.


The majority of the recent mayors have been REPUBLICANS! The city is a disfunctional mess because there are a million different deligates on the council none of which can agree on much of anything. Not that they could do much if they wanted to because everything is completely rigged so that the subcommittees and special interests can block anything they don't like.

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The term for that is deficit.

Pop quiz: What's the US Federal deficit under the current President's administration?

Man, you set yourself up...


Two different things.

Hit your head against a brick wall.

Problem solved.

 
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