09-08-2000 06:29									#1
	Space Empires IV Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

http://www.malfador.com/se4.html

For those that liked Moo2... this game is Moo2 on steroids! It is more complex than Civ and EVERYTHING is customizable! This game looks good... just needs more hype .

	10-08-2000 22:35									#2
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In case someone didn't notice, a demo (17 Mb) is available. Imran, you've got a good taste.

	12-08-2000 03:55									#3
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Thanks!!! Hopefully this time it works (the link didn't work before... Fjorxc, Boshko, and I all tried it).

	15-08-2000 07:42									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

the link works now... of course i just used 'save target as'... i'm currently at 65%. we'll see how the game really is.

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	16-08-2000 06:17									#5
	Got spare money?

Not bad... Better than Moo2... but I've no idea what half the things mean... NEEED manual.

	16-08-2000 06:44									#6
	Got spare money?

What are the changes in the patch to the demo?? anyone know??

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	20-08-2000 08:59									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

The link works great. I wasted most of today playing the game--and just crushed my first enemy empire.

Psst, Imran, the tutorial shows you what most of the icons are for. Praise be the planets with green asterisks!

	20-08-2000 22:10									#8
	Suffering from ads?

Yeah, but the tutorial I found was lacking... what are those red looking sun things (radiation count?)...

	22-08-2000 09:22									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Kinda. Your three building blocks are the blue crowns (minerals), the green clover (organics) and the red wheels (radioactives). In this game, radioactivity is a good thing.

	23-08-2000 14:11									#10
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17MB just for a demo? Sheesh! The stench of fatware is thick here

	23-08-2000 18:39									#11
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Urb, check out the demo for Imperial Galactica II ... 132.3 megs. I've tried to download it four times (it takes about 13 hours), but the downloading has crashed all four times.

	25-08-2000 09:49									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

OK, Game is pretty cool. But is there any way you can send a ship to a remote star system without guiding it through each system in the middle?

	25-08-2000 08:17									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Sure.

The two easiest at to use the "go-to" command, and tell your ship to go to the final destination. The other way is to open the system adjacent to where you want to go and use the "warp" command on the wormhole.

Don't make your ship go through too many systems though, or it'll run out of supplies and drop down to 1-sector/turn.

	26-08-2000 02:17									#15
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UR, you don't touch demos of 17 MB? You don't DL a lot of demos do you? 17 is SMALL in today's world. Most demos are 60-120 MB..

	26-08-2000 05:10									#16
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I dunno about this game being better then MOO2... Y'know, MOO2 was more Civ-like, so to speak. Darn, I knew I shouldn't have lent away my copy of MOO2.....

	26-08-2000 08:31									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

On a related subject, Reach For The Stars is coming out next week. Is this on anyones "must buy" list?

Personally, I think I'll wait and see what the big reviewers say.

John-SJ

	04-09-2000 08:14									#18
	Got spare money?

Question: Does the AI seem dumb to anyone else? Maybe it's just the races I've been running into, but so far I haven't seen the computer player acting particularly intelligently.

	04-09-2000 08:41									#19
	Got spare money?

reach for the stars seems like crap the review at gc gave it a 4 and some of the latter previews and the gc review gave the combat model a big 0

SSNG is on my list tho

	08-09-2000 09:29									#20
	Suffering from ads?

I bought Space Empires III when there wasnt any sign of IV, and I'll probably buy IV as well.

The only thing that annoys me in the demo is the turn limit. The demo of III let you play as long as you wanted. (sigh)

Anybody here wanna play a game against me? (Just dont expect me to be too good)

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	01-12-2000 05:48									#21
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

So, did anyone end up buying this game? I just tried the demo again, played through the tutorial and am continuing on, seems like a decesnt enough game! (last time I had the demo I was short on time and patience so I never got into it )

Is this really a good game? Does it have a decent manual?

John-SJ

	01-12-2000 10:41									#22
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John,
Gamespot ( www.gamespot.com ) has a relatively recent review that seems to rate it pretty highly as a strategy game even if a little short on graphics. However from all accounts the manual isn't much to write home about and needs improvement.
I still plan on getting it though
[Edit : html link didn't work - Ooops)
[This message has been edited by ravagon (edited December 01, 2000).]

	01-12-2000 20:30									#23
	Put an end to popups!

I was planning to get it. The review as linked above said that it is not available in stores, only from the web site. This makes me pause about the decision as it is 40US and to ship to Canada is 13US. That's a lot of scratch.

I liked the demo, the game looked fairly deep and complex. I expect I will order it soon so I can have it in time for my holidays around Christmas!

	02-12-2000 00:19									#24
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Ok I ordered it. After looking at the review I got all ichy to play it again. I'll just call that my present to myself Although I am thinking about getting CTP2, but I might wait for that to get cheap now!

	02-12-2000 07:14									#25
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edit: Ha! I found the answer to my question...

John-SJ

[This message has been edited by John-SJ (edited December 02, 2000).]

	05-12-2000 02:36									#26
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I ordered it on the day after Thanksgiving, and then informed my that she had bought it for me for Christmas. It arrived on the 30th. I am already well into my first game.

I am creating a sizeable navy, I just discovered the "light cruiser".

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	05-12-2000 08:03									#27
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

60 big buckeroos! *ouch* I have to think about this one. Though Games Domain gave it a gold star! Ugh! What to do?
[This message has been edited by Urban Ranger (edited December 04, 2000).]

	06-12-2000 10:09									#28
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Yeah, I feel the same way. I would like it but $60 does seem a bit steep.

	09-12-2000 14:32									#29
	Tired of ads?

Anybody is going to write a review for SE4? I read somewhere somebody got it as a Christmas gift? It would be nice to know what you think before deciding on whether to buy it.

Particularly, I would like to know how detailed tactical combat is. For example, if a ship of yours has 20 laser beams, can you choose to fire five instead of the entire bank? Also, can you have a large number of custom ships? None of these are available in MoO 2.