18-12-2004 06:12									#1
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Don't know if you think this is a good or bad idea, but at least worth the effort.

Contact CDG. Tell them that their other galley will soon be destroyed. Tell them that if it is the one with a settler on it, we will allow the settler to land at a location choosen by us, form a city, and allow the galley to enter the city. Then, they must transfer the city over to us. We get a free city without the necessity of making a settler. CDG gets to keep its galley.

Another idea, is that if it has a settler and they do not want to give us a city is to have them land the settler and disband the galley. We will attack the settler and get two workers. We then make peace with CDG, and send them one of the two workers. We gain a free slave. CDG gains a worker. We do not risk our military in conflict.

OK. Both these ideas are silly, and both require that CDG doesn't just run away (I don't know why they haven't already) and that they don't have too bad of feelings towards us. But hey, nothing asked, nothing gained. If we are to do this, we should send them an email before they play, so within the next 24 hours or so. Anybody game?

	18-12-2004 08:10									#2
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Why not?

	18-12-2004 09:41									#3
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I think my memory of game mechanics is a bit off - wouldn't CDG's civilization end once they lose the settler? Are they allowed to gift us what would be their only city?

Mechanics aside, it's doubtful CDG will do anything to help us. I get the feeling that they blamed us for the war more so that PAL. If I was in CDG's shoes (or CDG's galley, as may be the case), I'd be pretty angry at Apolyton and unwilling to provide any material support, even in exchange for protection.

	18-12-2004 11:47									#4
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CDG have a capitol somewhere - you have to look for the "Godking issue" somewhere in the boards.

We have to preapre a letter just in case everyone (or least a majority) agrees to this.

And the voting is 3-0 until now

	18-12-2004 15:53									#5
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Making some form of agreement not to attack/eliminate them would be counter to our aims. We want CDG gone, and to agree not to reach that aim just when they are at their most vulnerable would be counter-productive, I think. We should be aiming to kill them the soonest.

This all aside from any mistrust they (will) have towards us.

	18-12-2004 16:03									#6
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the proposal will be only for this galley, not for the entire game

	19-12-2004 00:46									#7
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I'm not sure that they'd have any reason to agree to this. Why help us? If I were them I'd laugh at the thought of helping Apolyton or giving them anything.

--Togas

	19-12-2004 01:26									#8
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GK: For the bouncing banana, its simply "ana" between the colons.

As for this idea I'd say atempting it would be like

	19-12-2004 04:30									#9
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Ya, if I were them, I would laugh at it also. But as I said, if you never ask, you never have a chance of being told yes.

	19-12-2004 04:55									#10
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Im changing my mind, Im now against this idea.

	19-12-2004 05:05									#11
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OK. I readily admit it is stupid, and not likely to succede. I consider it dead.

	19-12-2004 05:46									#12
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HAHA!! It's likely another Civ gave CDG a city...thsu why they have a Cap. It's also likely this galley has a settler on it. Not very likely that CDG will give us anything at this point. Let's just sink it.

	20-12-2004 02:31									#13
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Wipe them out already!

	20-12-2004 12:20									#14
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Sink them, I think that we should not base decisions on things that we should not know about. That they have a capitol should be unknown for us.