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Sep 2002 time: 00:17
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quote: Originally posted by Solver
According to me, both CS and UT2k4 can be nice as long as there is real teamplay and no need to be a good player in order to enjoy yourself - which means, decent public servers. Going into a public DM server and getting creamed 1-18 isn't fun, it's frustrating. Which is my problem with DM usually - it's hard to find servers that are acceptable for casual players and are not full of people who play every day and are therefore superior. |
yeah well, unfortunately in competitive VS games, one of the biggest and most important requirement to play a good VS game is for you to be competent enough.
No one wants to play chess with an idiot. Same thing with any Competitive VS game. Nothing agst people that doesnt know how to play, but it just isnt playing the game at all if ur playing with n00bs.
So its up to n00bs to learn how to play competently if they want to jump in and enjoy along with those "superior" players.
EDIT: Oh and frustration? and getting cream? Heh. Try playing Marvel VS Capcom 2. Not only did I get interested in this game late wen everyone was a 9999 combo hitting wizards while i was a n00b, but fighting games in general has a real high learning curve and very unfriendly toward n00b attiude in the community.... During the first few weeks, I was getting owned by even the local 12 yr old arcade scrubs... You start with 3 characters in that game. It took me weeks to finally not lose with all 3 opponent's character still alive... Now THAT was frustrating...
but isnt getting frustrated a part of the fun in competitive VSgame play? You're constantly trying to **** the opponent while hes trying to resist and **** you instead.... If you think frustration isnt fun, then while you're having fun, youre opponent probably isnt... and vice versa. 
Last edited by Zero on 22-12-2004 at 20:08
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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000 time: 07:17
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quote: I do understand the meaning of fun. Competing is fun, whether you win or lose. What I dont understand is how someone can have fun while playing without any thoughts/strategy/goal/challenge what so ever.......... |
Yes, but what is competing? On a server in a FPS game, I'd say if I have a fair chance at getting some frags, it's competing, and is fun, agreed. Then I can have fun even if running the last by score on server. However, there are cases that are different, when the map runs for 15 minutes, in which time you get 2 lucky frags, while you have been fragged 37 times. That is no longer competing.
I agree though that some people have a very different idea of fun. I know some people, in different games, like to join games with inexperienced players, kick everyone's butt easily, and call that fun. Bah. My perfect idea of multiplayer fun is a match against an evenly skilled opponent.
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