19-12-2004 12:36									#31
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Well, here you have it, infidel!

OMFG.. so it is true.. not. *opens DVD for Mars Attack, the worst movie ever, tosses it in garbage*

	19-12-2004 12:41									#32
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I'm sorry, booger. I'm just yanking your chain. I don't dismiss the possibility of current simple life on Mars, just the likelyhood. And the evidence strongly suggests that any water on Mars is frozen and locked away. Any outbursts are few and far between and don't stay liquid long. When I was little, I believed in Cydonia, the face on Mars, and five-sided pyramids. Now? No.

	19-12-2004 13:15									#33
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Now which conspiracy theory am I supposed to believe in again?

	19-12-2004 13:38									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo There was something scary about bringing back samples to earth... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1385572,00.html Some scary stuff. Maybe we should approach any life with EXTREME CAUTION.

[let's say there are microbes out there]
They could travel on asteroids too, not need to get paranoid over this...

	19-12-2004 13:47									#35
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We whooped their asses back in '53.

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	19-12-2004 19:50									#37
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i wonder if this is just going to become another thread like 'Saturn's rings point to Pluto'

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BeBro: Is that one of the units you made for Civ3?

	19-12-2004 20:36									#39
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Yeah, it was for the X-Com mod

	19-12-2004 20:38									#40
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Bad Astronomy has a page on the magtubes.

	19-12-2004 21:32									#41
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quote: Originally posted by alva [let's say there are microbes out there] They could travel on asteroids too, not need to get paranoid over this...

But on asteroids they'd burn up when entering the atmosphere. I'm assuming with Mars we'd be talking about them traveling along with samples, so they'd actually have a chance of surviving.

But to all of this. If they get the evidence, sure, but the only thing those images say to me is we still have a hell of a lot to learn about Mars' geology before we can start screaming we found life.

There are plenty of natural features on Earth as well that look artificial. Just look at some typical Atlantis banter.

	19-12-2004 21:37									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Mercator But on asteroids they'd burn up when entering the atmosphere. I'm assuming with Mars we'd be talking about them traveling along with samples, so they'd actually have a chance of surviving. But to all of this. If they get the evidence, sure, but the only thing those images say to me is we still have a hell of a lot to learn about Mars' geology before we can start screaming we found life. There are plenty of natural features on Earth as well that look artificial. Just look at some typical Atlantis banter.

Most meteorites are very cold shortly after impact. The interaction with the atmosphere that causes them to 'burn up' only really effects the temperature of the surface atoms and doesn't penetrate the object at all. Whatever doesn't burn off in the atmosphere remains very cold.

	19-12-2004 21:44									#43
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* Mercator puts on protective suit

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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo There was something scary about bringing back samples to earth... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1385572,00.html Some scary stuff. Maybe we should approach any life with EXTREME CAUTION.

No.

	19-12-2004 22:06									#45
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And here I was, thinking that this was a serious thread about the potential of life on Mars.

... and then you had to bring pyramids into the discussion.

	19-12-2004 22:11									#46
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I believe!

Unequivocal scientific, photographic evidence of Martian Life!

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	19-12-2004 22:11									#47
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quote: Originally posted by booger Some facts about mars. There finding it does have a more active atmosphere than the Viking and Soviet counter-parts originally speculated. Mars core is dead and has been for a long time. The temperature on mars varys between -200F to 60 F (summer and winter extemes)

When you mention the more active atmosphere what are you saying exactly? If mars had much more atmosphere than NASA thought it did it would be patently impossible for them to have safely landed the rovers. I hope you realise that the extreme thinness of the martian atmosphere is in some respects the number one obstacle to prospects for surface life.

	19-12-2004 22:15									#48
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Now why didn't my picture show up? Could it be "THE CONSPIRACY"?

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	19-12-2004 22:23									#49
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Now why didn't my picture show up? Could it be "THE CONSPIRACY"?

coincidence. You are only seeing this alleged 'alien' from one angle with one angle of lighting. We need a follow up image with different illumination before jumping to any conclusions about whether that is really an 'alien' or just a natural landform.

I remain unconvinced.

	19-12-2004 23:41									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker No.

No? What the hell is that supposed to mean?

	19-12-2004 23:44									#51
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No caution is needed.

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quote: Originally posted by booger And NASA continues to deny the existance of any liquid water. Yet raw image after raw image proves otherwise. This is clearly mud. http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gall...7-B120R1_br.jpg

That doesn't look like mud to me. It looks like ice and dirt. When I'd drive to my (then) girlfriends place in Montana her dirt drive way would look like that and there most certainly wasn't any liquid water at that time of year.

	20-12-2004 01:44									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker No caution is needed.

Hmm... any way you can justify this?

	20-12-2004 01:46									#54
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1) You're asking me to prove a negative about a form of life the existence of which has not even been demonstrated!

2) It's absurd to think that life that evolved on Mars could even survive on Earth, let alone be infectious to humans.

	20-12-2004 01:48									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker 1) You're asking me to prove a negative about a form of life the existence of which has not even been demonstrated! 2) It's absurd to think that life that evolved on Mars could even survive on Earth, let alone be infectious to humans.

Nonetheless, it is important we be cautious. Better to be safe then sorry. I'm asking you why we shouldn't? Is it really that absurd?

	20-12-2004 01:52									#56
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quote: Nonetheless, it is important we be cautious. Better to be safe then sorry.

Have you ever crossed the street?

quote: Is it really that absurd?

Yes.

	20-12-2004 01:54									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker quote: Nonetheless, it is important we be cautious. Better to be safe then sorry. Have you ever crossed the street?

Yes even though the cross light is green, I look both ways... I've heard cases of drunks and other bad drivers going through reds.

	20-12-2004 01:55									#58
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Better safe than sorry, though. There could be invisible cars, like that James Bond one.

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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Better safe than sorry, though. There could be invisible cars, like that James Bond one.

You aren't listening to my point. But what can I say.. you are just really young... not very smart.

	20-12-2004 01:58									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo You aren't listening to my point. But what can I say.. you are just really young... not very smart.

So you can't edit it.