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floppy_lobster

Settler

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Dec 2004
time: 05:16

19-12-2004 11:44

The case for life on mars grows each day

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The evidence is becoming hard to ignore

http://www.space.com/scienceastrono...sms_040803.html

Flora/Fauna on mars?
I first came across this
http://communities.anomalies.net/cg...i?ubb=get_topic;f=44;t=000206;p=1

I know anomalies isnt the greatest of sources but read the stuff over.

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/e01...05/E0502156.jpg

A discussion on anomalies.net brought this picutre to light.

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/ab1...ps/M0305541.gif (1999)

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/e01...05/E0501421.gif (2002)

Glass tubes? Worms or Lava flows? I could understand a few but there are thousands of miles of

And there are thousands of miles of these things. Mars is not active volcanically and hasnt been for ALONG time. You make the call.

http://www.unarius.org/mars/glass-tubes.html

Here is another one

http://www.geocities.com/marsuneart...mars_tubes.html

There are THOUSANDS of miles of these tubes. I can pull hundreds of photo's from Malin but I think the evidence submitted is enough to make a call. Yet NASA has said nothing. But the ESA, has also spotted the anomalies and is strangely silent about the detection of methane.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6425

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ebtx.com/mars/m11abcde.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ebtx.com/mars/marstube.htm&h=1133&w=400&sz=40&tbnid=GSJ9dMTkiqYJ:&tbnh=147&tbnw=52&start=15&prev=/ images%3Fq%3Dmars%2Bglass%2Btubes%26hl%3Den%26lr%3
D

Read this discussion carefully!

http://communities.anomalies.net/cg...25;t=007272;p=1

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Clearly the ESA has spotted some martian runes?
Martian City

I dont go with the nuts on any issue. But the more I read the more Im leaning toward LIFE on mars and INTELLEGENT life at one point. Can someone explain these anomalies away? There are sooooooo many.. Mars was/is habitable temperature wise.

Some facts about mars.

There finding it does have a more active atmosphere than the Viking and Soviet counter-parts originally speculated.

Mars core is dead and has been for a long time.

The temperature on mars varys between -200F to 60 F (summer and winter extemes)

floppy_lobster

Settler

I am a scumbag ex car salesman. Did you pay too much?
Dec 2004
time: 05:16

19-12-2004 11:48

Increase the size of your Attachments

And NASA continues to deny the existance of any liquid water. Yet raw image after raw image proves otherwise.

This is clearly mud.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gall...7-B120R1_br.jpg

Giancarlo

King

Los Angeles
Apr 2000
time: 02:16

19-12-2004 11:50

Increase Your PM Length

There was something scary about bringing back samples to earth...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1385572,00.html

Some scary stuff. Maybe we should approach any life with EXTREME CAUTION.

floppy_lobster

Settler

I am a scumbag ex car salesman. Did you pay too much?
Dec 2004
time: 05:16

19-12-2004 11:54

Put an end to popups!

What Im finding amazing are the ESA pictures. Look at the top corner! That isnt Cydonia, its not Inca city. Its yet another buried part of mars that appears to look like a city

edit sorry about the size of that.http://www.esa.int/export/externals...b_18_mesa_p.jpg

Geronimo

King

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Jan 1970
time: 05:16

19-12-2004 11:55

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quote:
Originally posted by booger
And NASA continues to deny the existance of any liquid water. Yet raw image after raw image proves otherwise.

This is clearly mud.

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gall...7-B120R1_br.jpg

What is this a troll? That looks nothing like any mud I've seen recently.

In any event mars atmospheric pressure is so low that at any temperature recorded on mars water will evaporate. Just how would you stop the water from evaporating? furthermore why would the atmosphere be so bone dry if there was evaporating liquid water all over?

DRoseDARs

Prince

"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:16

19-12-2004 11:55

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booger, you're gonna have to resize that image to 800x600 or the mods are going to deleted it...

Edit: Nevermind

floppy_lobster

Settler

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Dec 2004
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19-12-2004 11:58

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quote:
Originally posted by Geronimo

What is this a troll? That looks nothing like any mud I've seen recently.

In any event mars atmospheric pressure is so low that at any temperature recorded on mars water will evaporate. Just how would you stop the water from evaporating? furthermore why would the atmosphere be so bone dry if there was evaporating liquid water all over?

Thats not mud? look again man. Your rover doesnt wiegh that much. If that is a caked soil.....like they say. It doesnt wieght down enough

The martian atmosphere isnt bone dry as once thought. The last major readings were conducted by the Viking. Read up on it.

Oh and dont attack the messanger. Attack the message. If you read through and check out all the links you will come to the same conclusion I did.

Last edited by floppy_lobster on 19-12-2004 at 12:06

DRoseDARs

Prince

"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:16

19-12-2004 12:06

Increase the size of your Attachments

quote:
Originally posted by booger

Thats not mud? look again man. Your rover doesnt wiegh that much. If that is a caked soil.....like they say. It doesnt wieght down enough

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/spacecraft.html

185kg (408lbs) doesn't weigh that much? Maybe on the moons of Mars...

Giancarlo

King

Los Angeles
Apr 2000
time: 02:16

19-12-2004 12:08

Got spare money?

never mind

KrazyHorse

King

Macedonia
May 2001
time: 00:16

19-12-2004 12:09

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DRoseDARs

Prince

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Jul 2002
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19-12-2004 12:11

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quote:
Originally posted by Giancarlo
Why attack me? I just posted a simple article...

Who's attacking you?

Giancarlo

King

Los Angeles
Apr 2000
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19-12-2004 12:11

#12

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I got confused... sorry.

floppy_lobster

Settler

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Dec 2004
time: 05:16

19-12-2004 12:12

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quote:
Originally posted by DRoseDARs

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/spacecraft.html

185kg (408lbs) doesn't weigh that much? Maybe on the moons of Mars...

150lbs on mars. Still not enough to do that

KrazyHorse

King

Macedonia
May 2001
time: 00:16

19-12-2004 12:13

#14

Remove this text

Temperature range for Mars is in the 180-250K range. Atmospheric pressure is in the 600 Pa range.

BeBro

King

of the Krauts
Mar 2000
time: 06:16

19-12-2004 12:14

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The pic looks like a desert

DRoseDARs

Prince

"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:16

19-12-2004 12:14

#16

Suffering from ads?

Funny, when my 125lbs of flesh and bone step into fine dirt, I manage to leave footprints...

KrazyHorse

King

Macedonia
May 2001
time: 00:16

19-12-2004 12:14

#17

Full PM-box? Change here!

Please explain to me why thermodynamics works differently on Mars than anywhere else in the universe.

floppy_lobster

Settler

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Dec 2004
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19-12-2004 12:15

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Ok fine. Lets not pick on the tracks. Thats a pretty minor issue. Look at the overwhelming evidence.

DRoseDARs

Prince

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Jul 2002
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19-12-2004 12:16

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That it's a dead, dry world? Ok.

floppy_lobster

Settler

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Dec 2004
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19-12-2004 12:17

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quote:
Originally posted by DRoseDARs
That it's a dead, dry world? Ok.

Whats with all the old ruined structures then

The tubes? confused:plant life that there snapping pics of? (or apparent

Giancarlo

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Los Angeles
Apr 2000
time: 02:16

19-12-2004 12:18

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quote:
Originally posted by booger
Ok fine. Lets not pick on the tracks. Thats a pretty minor issue. Look at the overwhelming evidence.

Best not to put your eggs all in one basket until everything is verified. I think there is a lot of speculation. I'm not discrediting the possibility of life on mars, but I don't think it is a proven fact, yet (if it could be).

DRoseDARs

Prince

"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:16

19-12-2004 12:19

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quote:
Originally posted by booger

Whats with all the old ruined structures then

The tubes? The plant-life?

Put down the H.G.Wells book...

BeBro

King

of the Krauts
Mar 2000
time: 06:16

19-12-2004 12:20

#23

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...the green men? *hides*

DRoseDARs

Prince

"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:16

19-12-2004 12:22

#24

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One would think they're red-skinned due to natural evolution. Make it easier for them to hide from us in our interplanetary quest for oil...

floppy_lobster

Settler

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Dec 2004
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19-12-2004 12:25

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quote:
Originally posted by DRoseDARs

Put down the H.G.Wells book...

Dude just look at this ESA image

Then explain it blown up

Blown up

BeBro

King

of the Krauts
Mar 2000
time: 06:16

19-12-2004 12:27

#26

Tired of ads?

What are we supposed to see there?

DRoseDARs

Prince

"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:16

19-12-2004 12:29

#27

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OMFG!!111!1!11!ABAYLONIANZIGGURAT!!!elvis!!!

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BeBro

King

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Mar 2000
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19-12-2004 12:30

#28

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Giancarlo

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Apr 2000
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19-12-2004 12:34

#29

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I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to be seeing in those images. For all I'm concerned everything is dried up and dead. I still don't see anything overwhelming about those images.